Originally posted by bill718 The tea party folks are leading the charge to another government shutdown. Moderate republicans know this move would cause political damage to the GOP in the general election, which is why many are not happy about this tea party ploy, but they may be powerless to stop it. As a Democrat I'd welcome a shut down, since it would hurt the GOP at election time, ne ...[text shortened]... ttp://news.yahoo.com/gop-pragmatists-protest-tea-party-shutdown-tactics-151215469--finance.html#
Why is it that when a Republican House refuses to rubber stamp a Democratic President's budget proposals, they are shutting down the government? No such accusation happens when a Republican President's budget is shot down by a Democratic Congress.
Originally posted by bill718 I'm so happy you would welcome a shutdown. The voting public always blames the political party that is responsible for the shutdown (in this case the GOP), and votes the opposing party into power. Oh well...as the old saying goes, "if your opponent is going to fall on their own sword...don't get in their way!" 😀
(in this case the GOP)
Why would the GOP be responsible? The shutdown if it occurs is as much the President's fault as it is Congress'.
Originally posted by Phranny If they shut down, then I suggest all congressional salaries be halted for the duration. In fact, I suggest that congressional salaries are way too high and their lifetime benefits after serving even one term are outrageous especially considering that once they are out of office, they get hired for a ton of $ to lobby all their congressional cronies.
While I agree with you on congressional salaries, and staff expenses, would you feel the same if the political parties were reversed, and it was a GOP President, and a Democrat Congress?
Originally posted by Eladar If the Republicans provide a bill for spending and the President does not sign the bill, then it is the President who is shutting down the government.
If the government shuts down, who will spy on me via the NSA and spend all my money all while having contempt for me? :'(
For what its worth a "shutdown" accounts for only about 17%.
83% continues on as usual so be rest assured whodey the NSA will continue to spy on you unhindered. 😉
Originally posted by normbenign That would be fine with me, if both parties - Congress and the President - were serious about a balanced budget that started paying off the debt.
Fortunately there is only a small minority of Americans in favour of the elderly dying of poverty or treatable disease.
Originally posted by KazetNagorra Fortunately there is only a small minority of Americans in favour of the elderly dying of poverty or treatable disease.
Also known as reaping what you have sowed. At least by those that have voted all their life for an ever growing goobermint and lots of free lollies.
Unfortunate that those responsible enough and careful enough in planning for their retirement will be punished also.
Originally posted by Wajoma Also known as reaping what you have sowed. At least by those that have voted all their life for an ever growing goobermint and lots of free lollies.
Unfortunate that those responsible enough and careful enough in planning for their retirement will be punished also.
Not having the opportunity to enjoy watching your fellow elderly citizens die is a severe punishment indeed.
Originally posted by KazetNagorra Not having the opportunity to enjoy watching your fellow elderly citizens die is a severe punishment indeed.
Having your own careful retirement plans curtailed, stifled and handicapped because you have to pay for those that have been reckless and careless is immoral.
Originally posted by Wajoma Having your own careful retirement plans curtailed, stifled and handicapped because you have to pay for those that have been reckless and careless is immoral.
Yes indeed, not having the opportunity to enjoy watching your fellow elderly citizens die is super immoral. In a moral society, there is as much suffering as possible.
Originally posted by KazetNagorra Yes indeed, not having the opportunity to enjoy watching your fellow elderly citizens die is super immoral. In a moral society, there is as much suffering as possible.
Nice point here KN, the measure of a moral society is indeed the extent to which men deal with each other by mutual consent. The greater the welfare state reflects the greater immorality. There is no such thing as forced charity and forced benevolence, force makes the words benevolence and charity dirty and meaningless.
Originally posted by Wajoma Nice point here KN, the measure of a moral society is indeed the extent to which men deal with each other by mutual consent. The greater the welfare state reflects the greater immorality. There is no such thing as forced charity and forced benevolence, force makes the words benevolence and charity dirty and meaningless.
You're in a silly mood tonight aren't you.
Yes, who wants to live in a prosperous society rather than in dire poverty when said prosperity is "dirty and meaningless?"
Originally posted by KazetNagorra Yes, who wants to live in a prosperous society rather than in dire poverty when said prosperity is "dirty and meaningless?"
This is the old 'English is my second language' misunderstanding.
I said force makes the words 'benevolence' and 'charity' dirty and meaningless.
I love prosperity, the only bad thing about it is it attracts secondhanders, freeloaders and envyists.
Another Government Shutdown?
24 Sep '15 23:36
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