25 May 18
Originally posted by @whodeyNot to worry whodey, the NRA sends their prayers, that will make it all better. Yup, we have to blame:
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/indiana-middle-school-lockdown-after-gunfire-erupts-n877476
This time at a Middle school.
When will parents start suing schools for not keeping their children safe?
Enough is enough.
Schools
Parents
Education
Morality
Teachers
Hall Monitors
But not the guns, NEVER the guns. 🙄
Originally posted by @mchillYou are right, why just the other day my 12 gauge tried to sneak out the door to go on a shooting spree.
Not to worry whodey, the NRA sends their prayers, that will make it all better. Yup, we have to blame:
Schools
Parents
Education
Morality
Teachers
Hall Monitors
But not the guns, NEVER the guns. 🙄
Damned guns.
Originally posted by @whodeyAre you serious?
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/indiana-middle-school-lockdown-after-gunfire-erupts-n877476
This time at a Middle school.
When will parents start suing schools for not keeping their children safe?
Enough is enough.
1. Maybe the gunman should be sued?
2. Or the owner of the gun especially if he/she negligently allowed the gunman to get the gun?
3. Or maybe the seller of the gun, especially if the background check was done insufficiently?
4. I could even see advocating suing the seller of the gun or the manufacturer, distributor of bullets because at this point it is undeniably foreseeable that school shootings will result from their product.
5. And maybe even if there is no valid legal argument, there is certainly a moral basis to sue group like the NRA who fight to make sure that laws are weakened and inevitably guns get into murders hands or you could sue law makers who get elected by making sure we have insufficient protections from inevitable shooters.
But you think the responsibility for school shootings is public schools. Institutions which are required by law to educate the masses. Schools have no financial interest in guns and schools in no way market themselves as distributors or guns or ask anyone for support based on the existence of guns.
You are entitled to your opinion that schools are financially responsible for shootings but it is likely the single dumbest argument one could make on this issue.
Originally posted by @quackquackI am 100% serious.
Are you serious?
1. Maybe the gunman should be sued?
2. Or the owner of the gun especially if he/she negligently allowed the gunman to get the gun?
3. Or maybe the seller of the gun, especially if the background check was done insufficiently?
4. I could even see advocating suing the seller of the gun or the manufacturer, distributor of bullets ...[text shortened]... nsible for shootings but it is likely the single dumbest argument one could make on this issue.
Buildings in which legislators and judges reside are armed and protected and anyone who wants in must be searched. None of this happens there.
Why are they better than our children, ESPECIALLY in light of the fact that about every day now a school gets shot up?
The state is beyond negligent and their disregard for the value of our children verses their own sorry arse is duly noted.
You do bring up a good point, however. The parents of these children could be sued in a Civil case. Maybe with the thought of losing everything they have will keep them more in tune with what their children are up to.
Now we all know what the answer will be. The state will simply shrug their shoulders and say they can't afford to keep our children safe like they are kept safe where they work. Well then, just close down the schools and put a computer in the homes of all the children then. In this age of virtual technology, there is no reason to bus them to school and would save the state all kinds of money along with that. That way the state has more money to do what they do best with it, which is squander it all on themselves and those who fund them.
To date we have not seen the picture of the kid who did this, nor his name being posted.
This is at least some good news in helping to stop this crap.
Do note, however, that it is still open season on children. When will the negligent state protect the schools?
If they ban guns tomorrow, nothing changes.
25 May 18
Originally posted by @whodeySuing schools incorrectly makes the financial cost of school schooling on the taxpayer. The cost should be on those who benefit from the production and sale of the guns and ammunition that are used in shootings.
I am 100% serious.
Buildings in which legislators and judges reside are armed and protected and anyone who wants in must be searched. None of this happens there.
Why are they better than our children, ESPECIALLY in light of the fact that about every day now a school gets shot up?
The state is beyond negligent and their disregard for the value of ou ...[text shortened]... to do what they do best with it, which is squander it all on themselves and those who fund them.
The freedom to have semi-automatic weapons is a moronic freedom. Yet you attempt to protect it regardless of its disastrous results. We have 100,000 schools in the US. You want everyone to lose the freedom and convenience of entering schools without metal detectors, you want the expense of these metal detectors. You know that it still won't prevent shootings of people who are able to circumvent the metal detectors or able to shoot people who are out the school (say on line to go through a metal detector).
Perhaps you should have a rethink your position and come up with a plan to address a real problem.
Originally posted by @whodeyI wouldn't ban guns. I would hold those who produce and distribute them financially responsible when the injure people in a foreseeable way.
To date we have not seen the picture of the kid who did this, nor his name being posted.
This is at least some good news in helping to stop this crap.
Do note, however, that it is still open season on children. When will the negligent state protect the schools?
If they ban guns tomorrow, nothing changes.
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26 May 18
The post that was quoted here has been removedUnfortunately, greed gives that argument some validity.
But the American legal system is still preferable to many.
Unless one believes it's better to administer martial justice by gunning down political and media opponents in the streets.