Originally posted by KneverKnightGood question.
Historically speaking, is Macedonia to Greece like Canada is to England/USA?
It would depend how far back you want to go. l would say they differ somewhat. Macedonia was (by the Greeks) considered to be full of barbarians with no culture. Phillipa of Macedon (Alexanders father) united (by force and politics) a number smaller "kingdoms" under one rule. Alexander at a tender age took over this and carried on this fathers work & uniting Greece (under Macedonian rule) and beating the be-jesus out of the Persians....
Originally posted by nook7The Persians were trying to expand their influence in Greece at the time eh? So, along comes Phillip/Alexander (sort of a Churchillian figure) and not only beats the Persians, but goes right to the Indian border. I wonder if Macedonians consider themselves as a part of Greek culture or as the main part of it.
Good question.
It would depend how far back you want to go. l would say they differ somewhat. Macedonia was (by the Greeks) considered to be full of barbarians with no culture. Phillipa of Macedon (Alexanders father) united (by force and politics) a number smaller "kingdoms" under one rule. Alexander at a tender age took over this and carried on this fath ...[text shortened]... s work & uniting Greece (under Macedonian rule) and beating the be-jesus out of the Persians....
Originally posted by pcaspianFor the same reason it would be poor form for any of your friends to go around telling everyone your grandfather was homosexual, when that is not the case.
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[b][b]Depicting Alexander as bisexual where there is no evidence prove so is pretty poor form
Why? Because it agitates your homophobic condition?
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For the same reason it would be poor form for any of your friends to go around telling everyone your grandfather was homosexual, when that is not the case. ...[text shortened]... e anyone with opposing views, I sincerely suggest you contemplate counseling.
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Well, if they knew that he was not a homosexual and then proceeded to say that he was, then I suppose that would be a problem. If on the other hand, my grandfather lived in San Francisco in a gay district and there was no convincing reason to think that he was not gay then I don't think depicting him in a movie as bisexual would be wrong.
It's an artistic movie (Alexander the Great). Nobody is trying to write it into the history books.
You need to chill out just a little bit more.
Maybe you are right. I will consider toning it down.
If you fail to agree with someone's point of view, calling them a homophobe only makes me believe that you yourself are extremely touchy about this subject.
Well, this would certainly be true if we were having a discussion about something with no connection to homosexuality. However since we are, I think my statement, while perhaps not appropriate, is accurate.
Why would you be so incredibly touchy ? The logical assumption is that you are yourself or a close friend or relative is gay. Ofcourse that would explain your irrational fear of all that is Christian.
Uh . . . oops. You've gone from having a point to spouting ridiculousness. Well, I forgive you. 🙂
No need to discuss the rest. I'll tone it down. You save the psychoanalysis for the experts.
Originally posted by telerionI am, they are joining so fast i can't keep up - going to be bigger than the states soon 🙂
Last, I heard they were still applying.
Maybe some folks on that side of the world are more aware of recent developments.
think they beat us at soccer 🙁
then again who doesn't
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The guy who can travel to Ghordia and mess with knots can't be all bad. I have not seen the movie. Out of choice. Oliver Stone is an idiot. Why would I watch anything with his overview layed across history when all I have to do is read the real history?
As to Alexanders "bisexual" nature. It is well documented in history. This is the reason that many cities in the world still call the "greek" section "boys town". The most notable is Chicago. See my post from last week.
Anyway. So what?
The part I laughed at was the actor that they chose to portray the man.
There are documented accounts of the real man... Alexander... killing a horse by twisting it's neck until it suffocated. Collin what's is name? I see any old horse just trotting off across the field laughing as the camera documents the abuse to the fine young gentle actor. Giggle. Big time.
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Originally posted by StarValleyWyBy the way... did you know that Alexander "tested" the idea that he was a god by riding alone into battle against 200 enemies? He reasoned that if he survived, he truly was a god. He survived. Then it was just a true conviction. He couldn't fail. Gods don't, you know.
The guy who can travel to Ghordia and mess with knots can't be all bad. I have not seen the movie. Out of choice. Oliver Stone is an idiot. Why would I watch anything with his overview layed across history when all I have to do is rea ...[text shortened]... uments the abuse to the fine young gentle actor. Giggle. Big time.
He rode out front of every battle. He invited death.
He found it in a virus. Or a poison. We will never know.
But over 200 man inflicted wounds failed to stop him from battle.