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@AverageJoe1 saidWait what? MAGAs think presidents should be immune from prosecution of all crimes?
https://www.mediaite.com/tv/levin-says-biden-better-damn-well-hope-trump-wins-on-immunity-because-hell-need-it-for-his-own-crimes-im-making-a-long-list/
Whaaaaat? Is that real?
No, that's dumb.
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@wildgrass saidI can't think it one way or another, without acquainting myself with Consiitutional provisions which would apply. I'm not writing about me, which is what libs do all the time.
Wait what? MAGAs think presidents should be immune from prosecution of all crimes?
Whaaaaat? Is that real?
No, that's dumb.
Rather, I think that certain immunity from prosecution for things done during a president's term, or however you want to phrase it, may have to be decided by SCOTUS. So the point here is that if Trump is not given immunity for indiscretions in the WH, Neither will Biden.
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@AverageJoe1 saidGood. It's a silly point though. You see, Biden supporters aren't in a cult so they won't support him if he tried to plan a coup.
I can't think it one way or another, without acquainting myself with Consiitutional provisions which would apply. I'm not writing about me, which is what libs do all the time.
Rather, I think that certain immunity from prosecution for things done during a president's term, or however you want to phrase it, may have to be decided by SCOTUS. So the point here is that if Trump is not given immunity for indiscretions in the WH, Neither will Biden.
@wildgrass saidAll due respects, how is it silly? If Trump is brought up on charges of things he 'committed' in the WH, then he goes through a trial (sanctioned by SCOTUS) and he is subject like everyone here to the findings of a judge and jury. Simple.
Good. It's a silly point though. You see, Biden supporters aren't in a cult so they won't support him if he tried to plan a coup.
So what I am writing, which is indeed NOT silly, is that the stuff Biden has done could get him in the same hot water, subject to the same fate.
I won't presume to confuse this post with stuff they both have done which is questionable, I am just making this point, esp to his supporters.
Or, you and SHouse could babble about the insurrection Jan 6. Or, the 8 yr old misdemeanor of Trump that would NEVER IN A MILLION YEARS be dug up to go after, say, Charlie Citizen.
I love my posts, I think they make more sense than anyone on the forum. Take your answer herein, about Biden supporters not being in a cult, and your shoelace comment that they won't support him (Biden?) if he tried to plan a coup.
Just what does that have to do with this thread, and what does it mean exactly??? 😕 🤔
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@AverageJoe1 saidJoe Biden supporters don't want Joe Biden to be immune to crimes just because he's president. Do the crime do the time.
All due respects, how is it silly? If Trump is brought up on charges of things he 'committed' in the WH, then he goes through a trial (sanctioned by SCOTUS) and he is subject like everyone here to the findings of a judge and jury. Simple.
So what I am writing, which is indeed NOT silly, is that the stuff Biden has done could get him in the same hot water, subject to t ...[text shortened]... n a coup.
Just what does that have to do with this thread, and what does it mean exactly??? 😕 🤔
Trumpers see it different, because they are in a cult so Trump can't do anything wrong.
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@AverageJoe1 saidIf presidents have immunity forever for crimes committed while in office, then why did Ford pardon Nixon ?
I can't think it one way or another, without acquainting myself with Consiitutional provisions which would apply. I'm not writing about me, which is what libs do all the time.
Rather, I think that certain immunity from prosecution for things done during a president's term, or however you want to phrase it, may have to be decided by SCOTUS. So the point here is that if Trump is not given immunity for indiscretions in the WH, Neither will Biden.
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@AverageJoe1
Well then, fine, if either of them are convicted of felonies you are ok with either or both going to prison, right?
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@wildgrass saidNot me. No one is above the law. No one. If a crime is committed by Trump, or Biden, you look in the book for what TheFirstTV punishment is. I have always said that on the forum. So, you must be writing about someone else. Sonhouse will go off on a tangent,…..Would I vote for trump if he were in prison? Maybe. I need the facts. That is an example of how he goes off track, and I have given you what my answer might be.
Joe Biden supporters don't want Joe Biden to be immune to crimes just because he's president. Do the crime do the time.
Trumpers see it different, because they are in a cult so Trump can't do anything wrong.
I try to close my posts. I wish y’all would.
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@sonhouse saidWell, yes. If you commit a crime which provides for such sentence, you have to go. Are you suggesting there is a difference? I do not think the Founding Fathers saw this coming. It is here.
@AverageJoe1
Well then, fine, if either of them are convicted of felonies you are ok with either or both going to prison, right?
If I may project, I do not see how Biden can avoid prison on the gun charge. Curtains.
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@AverageJoe1 saidNah mate. You opposed trump prosecutions left and right. the article you posted was about all the crimes Biden would be charged with, but hasn't because of "immunity" that doesn't exist.
Not me. No one is above the law. No one. If a crime is committed by Trump, or Biden, you look in the book for what TheFirstTV punishment is. I have always said that on the forum. So, you must be writing about someone else. Sonhouse will go off on a tangent,…..Would I vote for trump if he were in prison? Maybe. I need the facts. That is an example of how he goes ...[text shortened]... , and I have given you what my answer might be.
I try to close my posts. I wish y’all would.
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@wildgrass saidWhew please rewrite without cute so I can respond. You are wasting ink if you do not acknowledge that I have always said if guilty of a crime, he or anyone must accept court decision of incarceration. Give it up, take that to someone else. SHouse would love to discuss ‘Trump in jail’. I talk the law.
Nah mate. You opposed trump prosecutions left and right. the article you posted was about all the crimes Biden would be charged with, but hasn't because of "immunity" that doesn't exist.
Why are you off track about whether Joe or Don are immune from prosecution as I set out above? Immunity has yet to be decided.
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@AverageJoe1
We coiuld let Sue do the clever cute glib stuff? Stuff impossible to respond to? Where she nails it every time🔨
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@AverageJoe1 saidThis is stupid on the face of it because Biden doesn't need immunity from imagined crimes.
https://www.mediaite.com/tv/levin-says-biden-better-damn-well-hope-trump-wins-on-immunity-because-hell-need-it-for-his-own-crimes-im-making-a-long-list/
Trump, on the other hand, at least according to himself, does need immunity for actual crimes.