02 Apr 22
Has the time of the winnable invasion come and gone?
What with the US failing most of the time after spending billions on their wars, the Taliban still in power and Russia failing to conquer the Ukraine… WW1 and 2…
Has the world become too complex, the markets too entwined, for an invasion of a normal sized country to ever be succesful?
And when an invasion has worked, it’s always short term; the resistance remains, draining resources, until the invading party departs with its tail between its legs.
It seems to me a massive waste of money, time, lives, resources and infrastructure.
With very little pay-back, ultimately, for the invaders involved.
Will this Ukrainian malarkey protect Taiwan?
02 Apr 22
@shavixmir saidNo, because the Chinese aristocracy always thinks they can do everything better. Or at least more cheaply.
Has the time of the winnable invasion come and gone?
What with the US failing most of the time after spending billions on their wars, the Taliban still in power and Russia failing to conquer the Ukraine… WW1 and 2…
Has the world become too complex, the markets too entwined, for an invasion of a normal sized country to ever be succesful?
And when an invasion has work ...[text shortened]... tle pay-back, ultimately, for the invaders involved.
Will this Ukrainian malarkey protect Taiwan?
02 Apr 22
@shavixmir saidIf you are invading a land with a hostile population then short of committing genocide you will eventually have, even want to leave unless it serves some greater geopolitical purpose to remain where you are not wanted.
Has the time of the winnable invasion come and gone?
What with the US failing most of the time after spending billions on their wars, the Taliban still in power and Russia failing to conquer the Ukraine… WW1 and 2…
Has the world become too complex, the markets too entwined, for an invasion of a normal sized country to ever be succesful?
And when an invasion has work ...[text shortened]... tle pay-back, ultimately, for the invaders involved.
Will this Ukrainian malarkey protect Taiwan?
In the case Ukraine we do not really fully understand what Putin’s true purpose is. If it is to prevent the rise of a viable and potentially prosperous democratic Slavic state right in the border of his oppressed undemocratic economic basket case Slavic state then just hanging around in the south east corner firing off missiles will probably serve that purpose quite well. A permeant state of conflict with its neighbour and by association NATO is also a very good way of quelling domestic dissent.
Well planned invasions with clear short or long term goals will unfortunately be with us for a long time yet.
@shavixmir saidAs we speak, Russia's invasion is going entirely their way. Sure, it's not going as easily as everyone initially thought, but Russia is continually making gains. Ukraine is able to push back forces, especially round Kyiv, but at best that's a delay. If Russia employs more air strikes it's game over.
Has the time of the winnable invasion come and gone?
What with the US failing most of the time after spending billions on their wars, the Taliban still in power and Russia failing to conquer the Ukraine… WW1 and 2…
Has the world become too complex, the markets too entwined, for an invasion of a normal sized country to ever be succesful?
And when an invasion has work ...[text shortened]... tle pay-back, ultimately, for the invaders involved.
Will this Ukrainian malarkey protect Taiwan?
Russia's goal is simply getting Ukraine to kneel at their demands regarding NATO. Zelensky is completely on board with that if it means ending the war. If that's all Russia ends up getting it will still be a successful invasion. Putin doesn't need annex the entire region for his goal to be met.
So I don't see how invasions are dead, as welcomed as that idea would be.
Iraq seems to (ultimately) have been a successful invasion. Saddam was overthrown and Iraq is a functioning democracy not ruled by terrorists.
The invasion of Libya worked as far as removing an anti-west leader of an oil-exporting country. The resulting mess after NATO left was massive but that invasion ultimately accomplished what NATO wanted
And if China ever invades Taiwan, that will most definitely be successful.
02 Apr 22
@shavixmir saidYes.
Has the time of the winnable invasion come and gone?
Probably won't stop the rich countries from continuing to build tanks, though. I guess you gotta have something to drive around during parades and such.