Measles:
April 11 (Reuters) - The Texas health department reported 541 cases of measles in the state on Friday, an increase of 36 cases from its previous count on April 8, as the United States battles an outbreak of the childhood disease that continues to cross state borders.
Trans College Athetes:
Out of 510,000 athletes competing at the collegiate level, there are fewer than 10 who publicly identify as transgender, Charlie Baker, the N.C.A.A. president, said in January.
Guess which group is a crisis according to the fascist right-wing? 😆
@spruce112358 saidPoliticians focus on the issue because it swings elections, not because it's an important societal problem. From John Oliver's recent show about this.
Measles:
April 11 (Reuters) - The Texas health department reported 541 cases of measles in the state on Friday, an increase of 36 cases from its previous count on April 8, as the United States battles an outbreak of the childhood disease that continues to cross state borders.
Trans College Athetes:
Out of 510,000 athletes competing at the collegiate level, th ...[text shortened]... president, said in January.
Guess which group is a crisis according to the fascist right-wing? 😆
He homed in on a Republican state legislator in Kentucky who repeatedly tried to push through a ban on trans athletes in schools – despite there being just a single trans athlete in the state – while pulling a bill that would make it more difficult for predatory coaches to switch school districts, because legislators were late for dinner. “So it seems this is how the Kentucky statehouse works,” Oliver mocked. “When there’s one kid who wants to play field hockey, it’s Pearl Harbor. But when there’s a longstanding pattern of sexual abuse, it’s, ‘Sorry, we’ve got a 6pm reservation at the Cheesecake Factory.’”
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@wildgrass saidIt could also be said that trans athletes and their supporters are also (unelected) politicians.
Politicians focus on the issue because it swings elections, not because it's an important societal problem.
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@spruce112358 saidSorry that this is on a tangent to your question, but I think it's relevant to ask:
Measles:
April 11 (Reuters) - The Texas health department reported 541 cases of measles in the state on Friday, an increase of 36 cases from its previous count on April 8, as the United States battles an outbreak of the childhood disease that continues to cross state borders.
Trans College Athetes:
Out of 510,000 athletes competing at the collegiate level, th ...[text shortened]... president, said in January.
Guess which group is a crisis according to the fascist right-wing? 😆
Do you happen to have stats at the ready about how many trans athletes compete at the high-school level, and what the split is between t-male and t-female at each of the high-school and college levels?
My thinking is this: if all or most of those 10 trans athletes at the NCAA level are M2F trans, are they all so stubborn and inconsiderate of everyone else directly involved -- of the discomfort they are causing their born-female teammates (on the field, in the locker room, in the showers), not to mention causing problems for all the other trans people just trying to live their lives?
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@wildgrass saidAsk them, not me.
An extremely small minority.
Why do Kentucky politicians spend so much time, effort, and attention to a law that only affects one collegiate athlete?
Why do a small number of transgender athletes inconsiderately behave in ways that negatively affect the lives of all other trans people, many or most of whom are already having a hard enough time as it is?
Bottom surgery or not, why should trans females be allowed in girls' locker rooms and showers in high school or college? Because of some self-concept that is at variance with their physical chassis?
Why do some trans people and their haughty volunteer paladins seem to support and reinforce arbitrary cultural binary gender notions?
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@Arkturos saidNot small number, extremely small number. There are politicians passing trans athletes bans when no one in their entire state would be impacted.
Ask them, not me.
Why do a small number of transgender athletes inconsiderately behave in ways that negatively affect the lives of all other trans people, many or most of whom are already having a hard enough time as it is?
Bottom surgery or not, why should trans females be allowed in girls' locker rooms and showers in high school or college? Because of some self-conce ...[text shortened]... r haughty volunteer paladins seem to support and reinforce arbitrary cultural binary gender notions?
One must wonder why spend so much energy on such a non-existent problem.
The only rational explanation is that it's not about athletics at all. Conservatives don't like the concept of gender fluidity, dont want adults to be able to make their own life choices. Athletics is just a safe space for their arguments, even though it's not a valid problem.
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@wildgrass saidIt's not a non-existent problem, at least for natural-born females (and their parents!) who might be surprised and disturbed by the sight of either male genitals or pubic scars in the locker rooms and showers.
Not small number, extremely small number. There are politicians passing trans athletes bans when no one in their entire state would be impacted.
One must wonder why spend so much energy on such a non-existent problem.
The only rational explanation is that it's not about athletics at all. Conservatives don't like the concept of gender fluidity, dont want adults to be a ...[text shortened]... e choices. Athletics is just a safe space for their arguments, even though it's not a valid problem.
Do their reactions and opinions not count? Are natural-born females still 3/5 human in this damn country?
How about the trans-female athlete guys just admit: OK, our bad -- we should stay out of competition with natural-born females who have different bone structures and musculature?
May I ask if you are a trans female athlete?
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@Arkturos said"Might be" is asking a lot in that sentence.
It's not a non-existent problem, at least for natural-born females who might be surprised and disturbed by the sight of either male genitals or pubic scars in the locker rooms and showers.
Do their reactions and opinions not count?
How about the trans-female athlete guys just admit: OK, our bad -- we should stay out of competition with natural-born females who have different bone structures and musculature?
May I ask if you are a trans female athlete?
Have you no concern for those who might be disturbed by shiny objects or loud noises or sensitive subjects in general?
Might they be or are there any specific examples where concern is justified?
Again, were talking about a single person among thousands of collegiate athletes in Kentucky.
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@wildgrass saidDeflection noted. Do you even live in Kentucky, or are you just spouting off from wherever-land? Have you ever been a girl or a parent of a girl?
"Might be" is asking a lot in that sentence.
Have you no concern for those who might be disturbed by shiny objects or loud noises or sensitive subjects in general?
Might they be or are there any specific examples where concern is justified?
Again, were talking about a single person among thousands of collegiate athletes in Kentucky.
As for "might be" -- please inform us of cases where a trans female athlete was welcomed as one of the girls. Was that you? How was it done?
Something like coach saying, "Hey girls, I hope you will all welcome Jennifer as if she were really another girl with all the same biological and life considerations we all have, despite her gender dysmorphia and any biological-horror revulsion you might feel when you are all naked together -- because you are only female after all, and your opinions don't matter." ?
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@Arkturos saidKentucky is just an example. The legislators spent an inordinate about of time passing laws to protect student athletes from something that doesn't exist in their state.
Deflection noted. Do you even live in Kentucky, or are you just spouting off from wherever-land? Have you ever been a girl or a parent of a girl?
As for "might be" -- please inform us of cases where a trans female athlete was welcomed as one of the girls. Was that you? How was it done?
Something like coach saying, "Hey girls, I hope you will all welcome Jennifer as if ...[text shortened]... evulsion you might feel -- because you are only female after all, and your opinions don't matter." ?
While they were dithering in nonsense, another bill to protect student athletes against verifiable predators was ignored.
4.5 million people live in Kentucky. There isn't a single example of the serious issue that you think exists?
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@wildgrass saidI was hoping to learn your reasons for supporting the participation of trans-women athletes in high-school and college sports, as female participants.
Kentucky is just an example. The legislators spent an inordinate about of time passing laws to protect student athletes from something that doesn't exist in their state.
4.5 million people live in Kentucky. There isn't a single example of the serious issue that you think exists?
Do you, or do you not? If you do, please lay out your reasoning.
Also, if you don't live in Kentucky, why does it matter to you what people do there?
@Arkturos saidNo I don't support or oppose. It's not a thing.
I was hoping to learn your reasons for supporting the participation of trans-women athletes in high-school and college sports, as female participants.
Do you, or do you not? If you do, please lay out your reasoning.
Also, if you don't live in Kentucky, why does it matter to you what people do there?
Non political Governing bodies that control sports competitions decide the rules. The athletes decide to agree to those rules when they enroll in competitions. Enforcement is league and sport specific.
Government should have no role.
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@wildgrass saidThen you shouldn't have even posted in the first place, right?
No I don't support or oppose. It's not a thing.
Non political Governing bodies that control sports competitions decide the rules. The athletes decide to agree to those rules when they enroll in competitions. Enforcement is league and sport specific.
Government should have no role.
Ideally, government does have a superseding role in protecting all of us from any one of us, or groups thereof.
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@wildgrass saidAnd you have focused on it for what reason?
Politicians focus on the issue because it swings elections, not because it's an important societal problem. From John Oliver's recent show about this.He homed in on a Republican state legislator in Kentucky who repeatedly tried to push through a ban on trans athletes in schools – despite there being just a single trans athlete in the state – while pulling a bill th ...[text shortened]... tern of sexual abuse, it’s, ‘Sorry, we’ve got a 6pm reservation at the Cheesecake Factory.’”
And yes, appealing to whatever this or that might get the populace as it actually exists to put one over the 50% needed to win an election is how things are done. Please don't be so idealistic as to believe otherwise.