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Banning of vicious aggressive dogs

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mwmiller
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At times, communities attempt to introduce ordinances that prohibit certain types of dogs within their city limits, such as pit bull terriers, for an example.

So here is my question:
Is it a DOG problem because certain dog breeds have a natural vicious and aggressive disposition, or is it a PEOPLE problem because the person who owns the dog is mistreating it, or training it to be aggressive?

I have tried to find unbiased lists of which breeds of dogs are the most aggressive, but what I have seen so far are not consistent.

Here is a sample of one such list:
1. Chihuahua
2. Dachshund
3. Chow Chow
4. Doberman Pinscher
5. Dalmatian
6. Rottweiler
7. Jack Russell Terrier
8. German Shepherd
9. American Staffordshire/Pit Bull Terrier
10. Siberian Husky

I googled this using "vicious dogs list" as my search string.

Pit Bulls are one of the dogs that are often the subject when banning of certain dogs is discussed, and yet according to this list they are almost at the bottom of the list.

Maybe instead of banning certain breeds of dogs, the focus should be placed on the people who cannot train and care for animals.

It would be interesting to hear some opinions from those of you who have had experiences with raising and training dogs as well as those who have been attacked by various dogs!

I am not a dog owner, but am interested in the topic as it is currently an issue where I live.

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In Rotterdam chihuawas (or however you spell the buggers) are by far the most aggressive (account for most attacks and bites on people).

The ordinance was obviously introduced with other breeds in mind. One would think authorities would do some research before implementing laws...

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Why not judge by the number of kills created by which breed of dog?

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@shavixmir

Yes, the little ankle-biters are pretty mean.
I'm not sure they are even smart enough to be trainable.

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@earl-of-trumps said
Why not judge by the number of kills created by which breed of dog?
Which breed would be at the top of that list?

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@mwmiller said
@shavixmir

Yes, the little ankle-biters are pretty mean.
I'm not sure they are even smart enough to be trainable.
Chihuahua’s have high adaptive Intelligence (The ability to learn from past experiences and solve problems on their own).

Most companion dogs also have high adaptive intelligence. That’s because in order to be an excellent companion, Chihuahuas need to be able to learn about the owners and adapt to their current situation.

And while it’s not guaranteed all Chihuahuas will have high adaptive intelligence, there are plenty of stories that prove many do. For example, one Chihuahua owner tells us her story:

Every time I go home, I put away my bag in the office, then go to the bedroom to put away keys, and finally use the restroom. My Chi gets to excited she runs to each door before me to greet me.

– Kathy L. (Chihuahua owner)

Kathy’s Chihuahua knows exactly what she does after work. And in order to get more “pets” and “cuddles,” she’ll run to Kathy’s next step. Learning from previous experiences is a clear sign of high adaptive intelligence.


https://www.redhotpawn.com/board/post.php?threadid=183835&frompage=1&quotedpostid=4153443

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@ghost-of-a-duke said
Chihuahua’s have high adaptive Intelligence (The ability to learn from past experiences and solve problems on their own).


Every time I go home, I put away my bag in the office, then go to the bedroom to put away keys, and finally use the restroom. My Chi gets to excited she runs to each door before me to greet me.

– Kathy L. (Chihuahua owner)

Kathy’s Chihua ...[text shortened]... Kathy’s next step. Learning from previous experiences is a clear sign of high adaptive intelligence.
So that chihuahua and her owner get along fine.
That is probably to be expected, but I wonder how she is when visitors come to the home.
They made it to first place on the list I saw for some reason.

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@mwmiller said
So that chihuahua and her owner get along fine.
That is probably to be expected, but I wonder how she is when visitors come to the home.
They made it to first place on the list I saw for some reason.
When visitors come calling they invariably put the kettle on.

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@mwmiller said
At times, communities attempt to introduce ordinances that prohibit certain types of dogs within their city limits, such as pit bull terriers, for an example.

So here is my question:
Is it a DOG problem because certain dog breeds have a natural vicious and aggressive disposition, or is it a PEOPLE problem because the person who owns the dog is mistreating it, or trainin ...[text shortened]... s!

I am not a dog owner, but am interested in the topic as it is currently an issue where I live.
it is the type of bite and severity
a small dog is probably not going to kill you
when a pit bull clamps down on you it hurts and they don't let go

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@mwmiller said
At times, communities attempt to introduce ordinances that prohibit certain types of dogs within their city limits, such as pit bull terriers, for an example.

So here is my question:
Is it a DOG problem because certain dog breeds have a natural vicious and aggressive disposition, or is it a PEOPLE problem because the person who owns the dog is mistreating it, or trainin ...[text shortened]... s!

I am not a dog owner, but am interested in the topic as it is currently an issue where I live.
Sounds like a BigDoggProblem.

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@lemondrop said
it is the type of bite and severity
a small dog is probably not going to kill you
when a pit bull clamps down on you it hurts and they don't let go
I agree that a small dog probably won't kill you.

I wonder how trainable a pit bull really is?

I have heard many owners talk about how friendly they are, but have also seen some that made me nervous to be around. So they perhaps can be trained to be friendly or to be mean and aggressive, depending on the dogs owner. If that is truly the case then that would imply that they are trainable.

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@mwmiller said
Which breed would be at the top of that list?
if you also take population density into it, I'd say Rottweiler. Maybe Doberman

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@lemondrop said
it is the type of bite and severity
a small dog is probably not going to kill you
when a pit bull clamps down on you it hurts and they don't let go
True.

Sometimes, when a Rott is clamped down on a victim, the only recourse to get the dog to let go is to kill it.

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