26 Jan 20
@mwmiller saidI have a Staffordshire, and he is the sweetest furbaby you could ever meet. He does have a deep bark, but he is truly all bark and no bite. Not sure how he would react if someone were to attack me, though.
I agree that a small dog probably won't kill you.
I wonder how trainable a pit bull really is?
I have heard many owners talk about how friendly they are, but have also seen some that made me nervous to be around. So they perhaps can be trained to be friendly or to be mean and aggressive, depending on the dogs owner. If that is truly the case then that would imply that they are trainable.
26 Jan 20
@earl-of-trumps saidBecause there are very few dog-kills happening.
Why not judge by the number of kills created by which breed of dog?
You can’t judge the aggression of pitbulls if they only kill 1 person in 10 years.
26 Jan 20
@shavixmir said841 pit bull attacks that killed, 2018, USA and Canada.
Because there are very few dog-kills happening.
You can’t judge the aggression of pitbulls if they only kill 1 person in 10 years.
https://www.nationalpitbullvictimawareness.org/attacks/map-of-attacks-2018/
26 Jan 20
@mwmiller saidI wouldn't have a problem with pit bulls and akitas being banned. I've seen these dogs (unprovoked) turn on their owners or others, and do some real damage. It's not always the owners fault -
At times, communities attempt to introduce ordinances that prohibit certain types of dogs within their city limits, such as pit bull terriers, for an example.
So here is my question:
Is it a DOG problem because certain dog breeds have a natural vicious and aggressive disposition, or is it a PEOPLE problem because the person who owns the dog is mistreating it, or trainin ...[text shortened]... s!
I am not a dog owner, but am interested in the topic as it is currently an issue where I live.
26 Jan 20
@mchill saidThat's strange, Mchill. I had read at one point that the only breed know to turn on its master was Doberman. Not saying you're wrong, just never heard of it.
I wouldn't have a problem with pit bulls and akitas being banned. I've seen these dogs (unprovoked) turn on their owners or others, and do some real damage. It's not always the owners fault -
26 Jan 20
@mwmiller saidIt's not just aggression it's also about size little bitty aggressive terriers aren't going to be killing people but rotts and pits are dangerous
At times, communities attempt to introduce ordinances that prohibit certain types of dogs within their city limits, such as pit bull terriers, for an example.
So here is my question:
Is it a DOG problem because certain dog breeds have a natural vicious and aggressive disposition, or is it a PEOPLE problem because the person who owns the dog is mistreating it, or trainin ...[text shortened]... s!
I am not a dog owner, but am interested in the topic as it is currently an issue where I live.
26 Jan 20
@athousandyoung saidRotts and Pitts are cupcakes if they are raised right and aren't abused they are just like any other dog.
It's not just aggression it's also about size little bitty aggressive terriers aren't going to be killing people but rotts and pits are dangerous
26 Jan 20
@mwmiller saidThere are no vicious dogs by nature. There are only poorly trained dog owners.
At times, communities attempt to introduce ordinances that prohibit certain types of dogs within their city limits, such as pit bull terriers, for an example.
So here is my question:
Is it a DOG problem because certain dog breeds have a natural vicious and aggressive disposition, or is it a PEOPLE problem because the person who owns the dog is mistreating it, or trainin ...[text shortened]... s!
I am not a dog owner, but am interested in the topic as it is currently an issue where I live.
26 Jan 20
@mwmiller saidIt is both a people problem and a dog problem.
Is it a DOG problem because certain dog breeds have a natural vicious and aggressive disposition, or is it a PEOPLE problem because the person who owns the dog is mistreating it, or training it to be aggressive?
Some people are irresponsible, whether by nature or nurture.
Some dogs are vicious, whether by nature or nurture.
However a dog with centuries of selective breeding behind it is
going to have strong NATURAL tendencies that only a very
responsible owner will be able to control through NURTURE.
It would make sense to have special licences for aggressive and/or
powerful dogs which require owners to demonstrate high levels
of control.
26 Jan 20
@mchill saidIt is almost always the owners' fault.
I wouldn't have a problem with pit bulls and akitas being banned. I've seen these dogs (unprovoked) turn on their owners or others, and do some real damage. It's not always the owners fault -
Having an untrained or abused pit is asking for trouble.
27 Jan 20
@athousandyoung saidMike Tyson snuggled with pet tigers for a while
Yes and people snuggle with grizzlies and tigers
27 Jan 20
@earl-of-trumps saidAny rabid dog, irrespective of the breed, has the capacity to kill you.
I think what some people miss out on here is this:
An untrained or rabid Chihuahua is not going to kill you. A similar Rott will.
27 Jan 20
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@mwmiller saidBanning things that are harmful for society is indeed a fascinating issue.
At times, communities attempt to introduce ordinances that prohibit certain types of dogs within their city limits, such as pit bull terriers, for an example.
So here is my question:
Is it a DOG problem because certain dog breeds have a natural vicious and aggressive disposition, or is it a PEOPLE problem because the person who owns the dog is mistreating it, or trainin ...[text shortened]... s!
I am not a dog owner, but am interested in the topic as it is currently an issue where I live.
So what kills more people, dogs or smoking? Naturally, smoking kills far more people but I have to say that when I spot someone smoking I don't fear for my life, but if I see a loose pit bull the question does pop into my mind.
Put another way, does society fear guns more than alcohol even though alcohol kills myriad more people every year, it's not even close.
I think the issue is, which generates the most fear of suffering in a short span of time at any moment in time. That is what gets the most attention.
So the issue is not banning what is the worst for us rather, the issue is what generates the most fear.