Originally posted by utherpendragonThat's funny. Why don't we compare his views to those of most Americans on the following issues:
But not with the heartland of America.
Santorum supports banning abortion even in cases of rape. As of last year, 75% of Americans think abortion should be legal in cases of rape or incest, and only 20% think abortion should be illegal in all circumstances. Even Mississippi couldn't pass a ballot initiative ascribing "personhood" status to zygotes; you think somehow the rest of the country will support someone who would want to do likewise? And exactly how many people do you think agree with his assessment that birth control should be a national policy priority?
Santorum also apparently believes its okay for businesses to discriminate on the basis of sexual orientation. He also said: "And if the Supreme Court says that you have the right to consensual sex within your home, then you have the right to bigamy, you have you have the right to incest, you have the right to adultery. You have the right to anything. Does that undermine the fabric of our society? I would argue yes, it does." Given that a majority of Americans (and a majority of self-described "independents" and "moderates" ) support gay marriage--let alone, one would assume, consensual gay sex, which of course Santorum views as immoral--how many people do you really think are going to share Santorum's views on same-sex marriage? This is the same man who also said "It's not, you know, man on child, man on dog, or whatever the case may be" and who also compared the issue to that of the war on terror.
But let's not get too bogged down on social issues. As of 2008, 68% of Americans think wealth should be more evenly distributed in the country. As of 2011, 59% of Americans think the upper class is paying too little in taxes (along with another 25% who think the upper class is paying a fair amount currently, and may or may not disapprove of lowering taxes for the upper class down the line), and 67% think that corporations are paying too little in taxes. What does Santorum argue the country should do? Eliminate corporate tax rates, and reduce upper-income tax rates.
Santorum is hardly in touch with "the heartland of America."
(All statistics come from Gallup's website and "On the Issues." See for yourself.)
Originally posted by utherpendragonUther, all political leaders make mistakes in there speeches. Obama has made his share, and will no doubt make a few more. It's not going to change anything. Like it or not, President Obama will win reelection. Why don't you go and play golf or something.
1.[b]"When I meet with world leaders, what's striking -- whether it's in Europe or here in Asia..."
-mistakenly referring to Hawaii as Asia while holding a press conference outside Honolulu, Nov. 16, 2011
2."We're the country that built the Intercontinental Railroad." —Cincinnati, OH, Sept. 22, 2011
3."The reforms we seek ...[text shortened]... n entire town destroyed." --on a Kansas tornado that killed 12 people[/b]
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Originally posted by utherpendragonI started to go through them one-by-one, and the very first hit was something deliberately taken out of context.
1.[b]"When I meet with world leaders, what's striking -- whether it's in Europe or here in Asia..."
-mistakenly referring to Hawaii as Asia while holding a press conference outside Honolulu, Nov. 16, 2011
2."We're the country that built the Intercontinental Railroad." —Cincinnati, OH, Sept. 22, 2011
3."The reforms we seek n entire town destroyed." --on a Kansas tornado that killed 12 people[/b]
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2011/11/14/news-conference-president-obama
It was a press conference about the Asia Pacific Region, and the "Asia Pacific" was mentioned over and over. Clearly when he said, "here in Asia" he was referring to the Asia Pacific. That was an overt, deliberate deception. Uther, do you bother to even check if maybe, just maybe your sources are taking advantage of you?
Are you really so stupid as to believe Obama, who grew in Hawaii and who produced his Hawaiian birth certificate to prove he was born in the USA actually thought Hawaii was part of Asia?
In contrast the Santorum quotes are his actual positions.
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Originally posted by bill718He already supports Obama. He has nothing good to say about the Republican Party. Who does?
Uther, all political leaders make mistakes in there speeches. Obama has made his share, and will no doubt make a few more. It's not going to change anything. Like it or not, President Obama will win reelection. Why don't you go and play golf or something.
