Originally posted by PsychoPawnFirst of all, yes, every article that is written for the purpose and that has the effect of showing a person in an over-all negative light is a hit piece.
Everything that criticizes a conservative is a hit piece.
Second, show me the last time they went after a liberal in an article with the vehemence that they regularly go after conservatives with.
When I implied that Time is a left-leaning publication, did I say something remotely controversial?
Originally posted by sh76Let's hear John Hess on this topic.
When I implied that Time is a left-leaning publication, did I say something remotely controversial?
"[I] never saw a foreign intervention that the [New York] Times did not support, never saw a fare increase or a rent increase or a utility rate increase that it did not endorse, never saw it take the side of labor in a strike or lockout, or advocate a raise for underpaid workers. And don't let me get started on universal health care and Social Security. So why do people think the Times is liberal?"
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Oh you said Time not New York Times... Teehee... I wonder if the same type of argument can be made about Time...
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Originally posted by adam warlockSarcasm or not, why would you bring up a quote about the New York Times when the publication we're discussing is Time Magazine? Because they have similar sounding names?
Let's hear John Hess on this topic.
"[I] never saw a foreign intervention that the [New York] Times did not support, never saw a fare increase or a rent increase or a utility rate increase that it did not endorse, never saw it take the side of labor in a strike or lockout, or advocate a raise for underpaid workers. And don't let me get started on uni ...[text shortened]... mes... Teehee... I wonder if the same type of argument can be made about Time...
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Originally posted by sh76No. Because the description provided for The New York Times can be very much applied (perhaps at a greater level) to Time Magazine.
Sarcasm or not, why would you bring up a quote about the New York Times when the publication we're discussing is Time Magazine? Because they have similar sounding names?
Originally posted by sh76How do you know this article was written with the purpose of showing them in an over-all negative light?
First of all, yes, every article that is written for the purpose and that has the effect of showing a person in an over-all negative light is a hit piece.
Second, show me the last time they went after a liberal in an article with the vehemence that they regularly go after conservatives with.
When I implied that Time is a left-leaning publication, did I say something remotely controversial?
If the facts show something negative then the piece is only being honest if it shows them in a negative light. I haven't read this whole article, but in some places they go out of their way to draw false equivocations that make Beck look better and they don't mention some of the more idiotic things he has said.
If it were a "hit piece" then I imagine they would have just gone full bore and thrown all the crap on the wall in hope that it would all stick.
Second, show me the last time they went after a liberal in an article with the vehemence that they regularly go after conservatives with.
I don't read time all that much at all so I don't know or care about their usual bent.
My problem is that it seems whenever there's any article that criticizes a conservative then the chorus of whines about the "liberal media" come out without actually talking about the actual article in question.
I think there is more of an incompetence problem in the media than a problem with political bias.
When I implied that Time is a left-leaning publication, did I say something remotely controversial?
Not at all. Did I imply that I was incredibly offended at your statement? I'm sorry if I did, I didn't mean that.
Originally posted by PsychoPawnIt's okay. I didn't think you were offended and neither was I offended.
How do you know this article was written with the purpose of showing them in an over-all negative light?
If the facts show something negative then the piece is only being honest if it shows them in a negative light. I haven't read this whole article, but in some places they go out of their way to draw false equivocations that make Beck look better and ...[text shortened]... I was incredibly offended at your statement? I'm sorry if I did, I didn't mean that.
I used to subscribe to Time; not because I love the magazine, but because it was so ridiculously cheap ($20/year + a free gift worth a few bucks).
All through the campaign I thought they mistreated McCain terribly. They also joined the chorus in going after Palin's family. They also would never be caught dead saying anything that could be construed as nice about Bush or the Bush administration. I got so fed up with it that I canceled my subscription in spite of the fact that it's virtually free. Just looking at the magazine makes me aggravated.
In general, I've soured on the whole weekly magazine thing. The only magazine I subscribe to nowadays is Foreign Policy.
Originally posted by sh76Reading stuff you disagree with is good for you.
It's okay. I didn't think you were offended and neither was I offended.
I used to subscribe to Time; not because I love the magazine, but because it was so ridiculously cheap ($20/year + a free gift worth a few bucks).
All through the campaign I thought they mistreated McCain terribly. They also joined the chorus in going after Palin's family. They also w ...[text shortened]... e whole weekly magazine thing. The only magazine I subscribe to nowadays is Foreign Policy.
Originally posted by FMFYou're right. I should go to the library and read it or read it online (though not Time; I can choose something on a higher level than Time). But I didn't want to help increase their circulation, thereby increasing their advertising revenue. That's the main reason I canceled. Petty? Perhaps. But it's the only leverage I have.
Reading stuff you disagree with is good for you.
Gosh. I accidentally posted in this forum instead of culture (discussing the musician, not anyone else), so I deleted the contents of the post.
You still managed to make an argument out of it!!!
If it's this easy, I shall start more threads, and make them all empty, with just one word as the title...
'snorkeling': discuss.