We need to stop crime. The cost of this will be paid by the criminals.
Remove laws which support criminals, such as the law which has people prosicuted for hurting or killing someone who is attempting to commit a crime against them.
Bring in the death penalty to save costs of prison. For crime which we will call "evil crimes". This is where the victim is a normal person compared to a company.
Make all drugs legal so that the costs are cheaper meaning addicts will not need to seal as much, it will also make the drugs cheaper.
Raise minimum wage. This way there is no reason for crime.
Have no such thing as a criminal record so criminals who reform can get jobs.
Give police guns with permission to use them.
More help for homeless.
Originally posted by Brother EdwinI would guess that the average amount of prison time served by those awaiting death (in the US, for example) exceeds the average prison sentence. Coupled with the enormous legal costs of killing someone, the death penalty as practiced in that country is certainly more expensive per offender than imprisonment. That said, steps could be taken to reduce the time and money spent on the legal process leading to execution, but given the record of wrongful convictions and inconsistent sentencing even with the current safeguards in place, I doubt such streamlining of the process would be wise. Also, there is little evidence that the threat of execution (American-style) deters anyone from crime. Again, this could perhaps be changed with a process more tolerant of type 1 errors (summary execution by police of those caught in the act, to be extreme), but the service of justice would again be compromised.
Bring in the death penalty to save costs of prison.
Originally posted by ChronicLeakyI agre with that only if they are sure.
(summary execution by police of those caught in the act, to be extreme),
I would make execution simple, it would happen minites after the trial is over. But only if they are 100% sure they did it.
Execution would be public, and more painful the more serious the crime. I would bring back medevil ways.
Genocide people would be kept alive for a long period of time whale torture is inflicted.
If anyone thinks its unfair think about if one of your close family was raped or murderd by someone who simply did not care.
Unfortunately, nobody is 100% sure that anybody did anything. The amount of death row offenders who are exhonorated after their deaths is apparently pretty high. This type of justice just doesn't work.
Our type of justice doesn't seem to work either, so I really don't know. We can't trust a lot of police officers because they change so radically once they get power, so we need to keep them on a leash.
All of your solutions could work in an ideal world. Too bad our world sucks.
Originally posted by DraxusWhen I say 100% i mean for example a guy killes someone in plain view and then is captured right away. Zero chance of mistaken identity. Or if DNA is found in a rape victim and the situation shows there was no consent, for example a wife is walking down a dark alley and raped by someone she has never known. Someone claims they were raped after a office party is different, since in this case there is a chance it was consentual and she is just claiming rape.
Unfortunately, nobody is 100% sure that anybody did anything. The amount of death row offenders who are exhonorated after their deaths is apparently pretty high. This type of justice just doesn't work.
Our type of justice doesn't seem to work either, so I really don't know. We can't trust a lot of police officers because they change so radically once th ...[text shortened]... on a leash.
All of your solutions could work in an ideal world. Too bad our world sucks.
Originally posted by Brother EdwinDNA evidence is being misused all the time. For examples of it wrongfully convicting people, see Sandra Lean's No Smoke Without Fire.
When I say 100% i mean for example a guy killes someone in plain view and then is captured right away. Zero chance of mistaken identity. Or if DNA is found in a rape victim and the situation shows there was no consent, for example a wife is walking down a dark alley and raped by someone she has never known. Someone claims they were raped after a office ...[text shortened]... different, since in this case there is a chance it was consentual and she is just claiming rape.
You can't stop crime in a free society. You can minimise it with resources, jobs, education and outreach work, but it's too hydra-headed to be completely nullified.
Originally posted by AmauroteOf course it cannot be completely eliminated (I think you meant to say), but it can be successfully minimised by exemplary punishment.
[bou can't stop crime in a free society. You can minimise it with resources, jobs, education and outreach work, but it's too hydra-headed to be completely nullified.[/b]
I doubt there is much theft in Saudi Arabia, for example.
Originally posted by Thales2There might be...
I doubt there is much theft in Saudi Arabia, for example.
these figures are 7 years old
http://www.nationmaster.com/country/sa-saudi-arabia/cri-crime
and they have nearly 24000 people in prison
not too far behind the UK adjusted for population
and it's all getting worse apparently
(from 2003)
"Riyadh police say that in the past three years, they have recorded more than 13,000 serious robberies.
Reporting on violent crime, and linking it to poverty and other kinds of social deprivation, traditionally has been taboo in this Islamic state, but most of the local dailies now have crime pages."
http://www.washtimes.com/world/20031222-123922-7479r.htm
but then the Federal Research Division says (2006)
"Neither petty crime nor organized crime is a problem in Saudi Arabia, although comprehensive statistics are not available."
http://lcweb2.loc.gov/frd/cs/profiles/Saudi_Arabia.pdf