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zeeblebot

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an admirable effort (to get the reporters out), however, i wonder if he's seen The Manchurian Candidate?

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Originally posted by zeeblebot
an admirable effort (to get the reporters out), however, i wonder if he's seen The Manchurian Candidate?
It remains to be seen if Mr. Clinton can make some progress with the loonies in charge of North Korea, but I applaud his efforts.😏

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Bet he's gonna have some fun checking out the night life. North Korea may be a bit controlled but a layover in Seoul may be on his agenda.

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Originally posted by zeeblebot
..... i wonder if he's seen The Manchurian Candidate?
What suppressed memory could be still left there to trigger I wonder?

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Originally posted by kmax87
What suppressed memory could be still left there to trigger I wonder?
That "come hither" look in someone's eye?

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he'd be triggering all over the place.

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Originally posted by zeeblebot
he'd be triggering all over the place.
And in unrelated news elsewhere, Cuban cigar futures rallied impressively overnight promising massive gains of around 15% over previous forecasts.

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Originally posted by zeeblebot
an admirable effort (to get the reporters out), however, i wonder if he's seen The Manchurian Candidate?
Probably offered the N. Koreans cheap Arkansas prison blood for their release.

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Originally posted by zeeblebot
an admirable effort (to get the reporters out), however, i wonder if he's seen The Manchurian Candidate?
http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/asiapcf/08/04/nkorea.clinton/index.html

U.S. journalists head home from North Korea

What about that movie?

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Hey, congrats to President Clinton. well done

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Originally posted by USArmyParatrooper
http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/asiapcf/08/04/nkorea.clinton/index.html

U.S. journalists head home from North Korea

What about that movie?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Manchurian_Candidate

The Manchurian Candidate (1959) by Richard Condon, is a thriller novel about the son of a prominent US political family who has been brainwashed into being an unwitting assassin for the Communist Party. The novel has twice been cinematically adapted, in 1962 and 2004.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Manchurian_Candidate_(1962_film)#Awards_and_honors

Awards and honors
Angela Lansbury was nominated for an Academy Award as Best Supporting Actress, and Ferris Webster was nominated for Best Film Editing. In addition, Lansbury was named Best Supporting Actress by the National Board of Review and won the Golden Globe for Best Supporting Actress.

The film was No. 67 on the AFI's "100 Years...100 Movies" when that list was compiled in 1998, but in 2007 a new version of that list was made which excluded The Manchurian Candidate. It was also No. 17 on AFI's "100 Years...100 Thrills" lists. In 1994, The Manchurian Candidate was selected for preservation in the United States National Film Registry by the Library of Congress as being "culturally, historically, or aesthetically significant".

It has received a rare 100 percent rating from Rotten Tomatoes [1]. Prominent American film critic Roger Ebert ranks The Manchurian Candidate as an exemplary "Great Film", declaring that it "is inventive and frisky, takes enormous chances with the audience, and plays not like a 'classic' but as a work as alive and smart as when it was first released."[2]

In April 2007, Angela Lansbury's character was selected by Newsweek as one of the ten greatest villains in cinema history.

American Film Institute recognition

AFI's 100 Years... 100 Movies #67
AFI's 100 Years... 100 Heroes and Villains:
Mrs. John Iselin, villain #21
AFI's 100 Years... 100 Thrills #17

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Originally posted by zeeblebot
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Manchurian_Candidate

The Manchurian Candidate (1959) by Richard Condon, is a thriller novel about the son of a prominent US political family who has been brainwashed into being an unwitting assassin for the Communist Party. The novel has twice been cinematically adapted, in 1962 and 2004.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ ...[text shortened]... Villains:
Mrs. John Iselin, villain #21
AFI's 100 Years... 100 Thrills #17
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Manchurian_Candidate_(1962_film)#The_Kennedy_assassination

The Kennedy assassination
Only recently has it been established that, in late 1962, Lee Harvey Oswald almost daily walked and rode a bus past a downtown Dallas movie theater where The Manchurian Candidate played for four straight weeks, November 14 to December 12 (see Oswald's Trigger Films, pp. 8–9). This raises the very real possibility that he saw the film, and the probability that he was at least influenced by it. In January 1963, he began planning an assassination of General Edwin Walker, which he then attempted, using a rifle, in April 1963.

Hollywood rumor holds that Sinatra removed the film from distribution after the John F. Kennedy assassination on November 22, 1963. Strictly speaking, the film was not removed from distribution, as can be confirmed from the Time Magazine archives section online.[3] Certainly the film was rarely shown in the decades after 1963, but it did appear as part of the Thursday Night Movies series on CBS on September 16, 1965 and again later that season. It was also shown twice on NBC, once in the spring of 1974 and again in the summer of 1975. It has been said that Sinatra did not acquire distribution rights to The Manchurian Candidate until the late 1970s. He was involved in a theatrical re-release of the film in 1988. In recent years, the film has aired occasionally on the Turner Classic Movies and American Movie Classics cable networks.

Michael Schlesinger, who was responsible for the film's 1988 reissue, maintains that the film's apparent withdrawal was unrelated to the Kennedy assassination. He says that the film was "simply played out" by 1963, and that MGM did not re-release it theatrically until 1988 due to disagreements with Sinatra's attorneys over the terms of the film's licensing.

Similar questions surround the film Suddenly in which Sinatra himself starred as a presidential assassin.

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uhoh.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204313604574330733667176234.html

AUGUST 4, 2009, 7:40 P.M. ET.

Paying Kim’s Price

The last time an American civilian was held prisoner by North Korea, in 1996, it took a visit from then-Congressman Bill Richardson to secure his release. Yesterday, it required the full prestige of a former U.S. President to win the freedom of captive journalists Euna Lee and Laura Ling. When it comes to giving up politically valuable hostages, the Dear Leader has clearly raised the price.

We don’t begrudge the congratulations Bill Clinton deserves for saving the two journalists from what might have been a nightmare 12 years of hard labor; that was the sentence a kangaroo North Korean court imposed for allegedly blundering across its border with China in March. But the important question going forward is whether Mr. Clinton’s visit was merely the down payment Kim extracted from the Obama Administration for a potentially larger set of American concessions.

That question is hard to avoid given that Mr. Clinton was met at the Pyongyang airport by Kim Kye-gwan, North Korea’s top nuclear negotiator. North Korea may have had its own propaganda reasons for putting its diplomat in the photo-op, and the White House insisted that Mr. Clinton’s mission was strictly humanitarian and that he was not carrying any messages from President Obama. We hope that’s true.

Yet Mr. Clinton’s visit is a message unto itself. It will bolster Kim’s bid to dissolve the six-party negotiations in favor of the direct talks with the U.S. he has long sought. It will also dismay some in South Korea and Japan, which have their own hostages in North Korea and will wonder why Mr. Clinton couldn’t obtain their release as well.

If it turns out that if a new nuclear negotiation really was begun during Mr. Clinton’s visit, it will also send the signal to North Korea that the worse its behavior, the more it stands to gain from the U.S. And it will mean that Kim’s price will be even higher to spring the next American hostages.

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get this. OBAMA let the NORTH KOREANS save face!!!

someone wants cupcakes on their birthday!

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090805/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_us_nkorea_analysis_2

Analysis: Obama lets NKorea's Kim save face

By STEVEN R. HURST, Associated Press Writer Steven R. Hurst, Associated Press Writer – 45 mins ago
WASHINGTON – The Obama administration let North Korean leader Kim Jong Il save face by releasing two jailed Americans to former President Bill Clinton. The payoff — maybe not right away — is likely to be renewed dialogue with Pyongyang about its nuclear weapons program.

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Originally posted by zeeblebot
an admirable effort (to get the reporters out), however, i wonder if he's seen The Manchurian Candidate?
Rumor has it that he dressed up as Kim and gave the order to release the journalists. Brilliant!!!

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