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Bill Maher Rips Islam To Shreds

Bill Maher Rips Islam To Shreds

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@Rajk999 said
When you are caught lying or misrepresenting the truth, it is best to admit your error and move on, instead of what you are doing here now ... making a fool of yourself.
Dude, you’re a raciat cvnt. Nobody cares what you say.


@shavixmir said
Dude, you’re a raciat cvnt. Nobody cares what you say.
Great communication skills you have there. Even the mods think its too much ... 馃榾


@shavixmir said
It doesn’t state in the Koran that men are supposed to beat their wives.

It does in the bible though.
Not in my Bible, hun.

Seriously, I don't know WTF you're talking about.


@sh76 said
Not in my Bible, hun.

Seriously, I don't know WTF you're talking about.

1 Timothy 2:12 - "I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet."

Leviticus 15:20 : "And everything on which she lies during her menstrual impurity shall be unclean. Everything also on which she sits shall be unclean."

Deuteronomy 21:11-14:

And seest among the captives a beautiful woman, and hast a desire unto her, that thou wouldest have her to thy wife.

Then thou shalt bring her home to thine house, and she shall shave her head, and pare her nails.

And she shall put the raiment of her captivity from off her, and shall remain in thine house, and bewail her father and her mother a full month: and after that thou shalt go in unto her, and be her husband, and she shall be thy wife.

And it shall be, if thou have no delight in her, then thou shalt let her go whither she will.

Exodus 21:7-8:

And if a man sell his daughter to be a maidservant, she shall not go out as the menservants do.

If she please not her master, who hath betrothed her to himself, then shall he let her be redeemed: to sell her unto a strange nation he shall have no power, seeing he hath dealt deceitfully with her.

Leviticus 19:20:

And whosoever lieth carnally with a woman, that is a bondmaid, betrothed to an husband, and not at all redeemed, nor freedom given her; she shall be scourged; they shall not be put to death, because she was not free.

Ezekiel 16:38-63

Chapter 16
38And I will judge you as women who commit adultery and shed blood are judged, and bring upon you the blood of wrath and jealousy. 39And I will give you into their hands, and they shall throw down your vaulted chamber and break down your lofty places. They shall strip you of your clothes and take your beautiful jewels and leave you naked and bare. 40They shall bring up a crowd against you, and they shall stone you and cut you to pieces with their swords. 41And they shall burn your houses and execute judgments upon you in the sight of many women. I will make you stop playing the whore, and you shall also give payment no more. 42So will I satisfy my wrath on you, and my jealousy shall depart from you. I will be calm and will no more be angry. 43Because you have not remembered the days of your youth, but have enraged me with all these things, therefore, behold, I have returned your deeds upon your head, declares the Lord God. Have you not committed lewdness in addition to all your abominations?


Now, add to this Original Sin.

What you get is that women are to blame, they have to listen to men, can be punished (stoning, death), can be sold and can be raped.

Don’t hide under rocks. If you believe this trash, you can only conclude that your God is an incel.


@shavixmir said
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1 Timothy 2:12 - "I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet."

Leviticus 15:20 : "And everything on which she lies during her menstrual impurity shall be unclean. Everything also on which she sits shall be unclean."

Deuteronomy 21:11-14:

And seest among the captives a beautiful woman, and hast a des ...[text shortened]...
Don’t hide under rocks. If you believe this trash, you can only conclude that your God is an incel.
Muhammed was a great example of a righteous Muslim. Apart from marrying an 8 yr old child, he encourage his followers to rape war victims.

From Google :
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Historical and religious sources indicate that Prophet Muhammad and his companions took female captives from wars, who could become concubines, but there are differing scholarly interpretations regarding the issue of rape and consent.
Enslavement of War Captives
In early Islamic society, which reflected the customs of the time, women and children taken as war captives could be enslaved as part of the "spoils of war" (ghanima). These enslaved women were often referred to as "those whom your right hands possess" in the Quran.
Muhammad himself had concubines who were war captives or gifts, including Mariya al-Qibtiyya (a gift) and Rayhana and Safiyya (captives). Some sources indicate he freed and married them, thus elevating their status, while others suggest they remained concubines. His actions of freeing and marrying captives, such as Juwayriyya, encouraged his companions to do the same, resulting in the freedom of her entire tribe.
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@shavixmir said
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1 Timothy 2:12 - "I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet."

Leviticus 15:20 : "And everything on which she lies during her menstrual impurity shall be unclean. Everything also on which she sits shall be unclean."

Deuteronomy 21:11-14:

And seest among the captives a beautiful woman, and hast a des ...[text shortened]...
Don’t hide under rocks. If you believe this trash, you can only conclude that your God is an incel.
Even with all the out of context old English scarequotes you posted, none of them say anything about beating anybody.

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@shavixmir said
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1 Timothy 2:12 - "I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet."

Leviticus 15:20 : "And everything on which she lies during her menstrual impurity shall be unclean. Everything also on which she sits shall be unclean."

Deuteronomy 21:11-14:

And seest among the captives a beautiful woman, and hast a des ...[text shortened]...
Don’t hide under rocks. If you believe this trash, you can only conclude that your God is an incel.
===What you get is that women are to blame, they have to listen to men, can be punished (stoning, death), can be sold and can be raped.===

The Bible was heavily into death penalties, but they're not limited to women. Men have all the same death penalties; and none of those quotes says anything about rape. As for "having to listen to men" aside from the Timothy quote (with is NT, so out of my domain), the Bible doesn't say anything like that. On the contrary, in a famous passage in Genesis, God tells Abraham to listen to whatever his wife tells him. ("讻止旨诇 讗植砖侄讈专 转止旨讗诪址专 讗值诇侄讬讱指 砖指讉专指讛, 砖职讈诪址注 讘职旨拽止诇指讛旨" )

The menstrual impurity is classic mistranslation. "Unclean" is a dumb translation of the the term 讟诪讗, meaning ritual impurity. Half the things on Earth are ritually impure in the Bible and men have almost mirror counterpart rules for men's fluids (I'll leave it at that). I don't know precisely why there are so many ritual impurity rules (though they no doubt helped decrease disease spread), but they have nothing to do with misogyny.


@sh76 said
Even with all the out of context old English scarequotes you posted, none of them say anything about beating anybody.
It’s implied.
And just for giggles: selling women is worse than beating them.


@Rajk999 said
Muhammed was a great example of a righteous Muslim. Apart from marrying an 8 yr old child, he encourage his followers to rape war victims.

From Google :
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Historical and religious sources indicate that Prophet Muhammad and his companions took female captives from wars, who could become concubines, but there are differing scholarly interpretati ...[text shortened]... ons to do the same, resulting in the freedom of her entire tribe.
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Mohammed was a paedophile.

In today’s standards, he’s not the sort of person one would invite to a birthday party.


@Rajk999 said
Muhammed was a great example of a righteous Muslim. Apart from marrying an 8 yr old child, he encourage his followers to rape war victims.

From Google :
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Historical and religious sources indicate that Prophet Muhammad and his companions took female captives from wars, who could become concubines, but there are differing scholarly interpretati ...[text shortened]... ons to do the same, resulting in the freedom of her entire tribe.
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Pretty horrible. - Of course, we see similar behaviour in the Bible.

Take, for example, Numbers 31: In the war against the Midianites, the Israelites killed all the men and took the women and children captive. Moses was angry that they had spared all the women, as some had enticed the Israelites to sin earlier (Numbers 25). He commanded that all the boys and the non-virgin women be killed, but the virgin girls (32,000 in number) were spared and divided as spoils among the soldiers, the people, and as a tribute to the Lord.


@Ghost-of-a-Duke said
Pretty horrible. - Of course, we see similar behaviour in the Bible.

Take, for example, Numbers 31: In the war against the Midianites, the Israelites killed all the men and took the women and children captive. Moses was angry that they had spared all the women, as some had enticed the Israelites to sin earlier (Numbers 25). He commanded that all the boys and the n ...[text shortened]... ber) were spared and divided as spoils among the soldiers, the people, and as a tribute to the Lord.
Horrible .. yes, then you come up with the usual lame attempt to equate the Quran with the Bible. You cannot even quote the bible properly, neither can you compare fairly. You are twisted and biased.

Im pretty sure of some things though... No leader, no priest or Godly person, from the Bible, would have engaged in rape of war victims, but Muhammed, who is the spiritual leader of this band of Muslims criminals was himself a murderer, a pedophile and a rapist. He was the perfect example for the rest of these animals to copy.

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@Rajk999 said
Horrible .. yes, then you come up with the usual lame attempt to equate the Quran with the Bible. You cannot even quote the bible properly, neither can you compare fairly. You are twisted and biased.
Biased? Oh the irony!

Numbers 31 is just as horrible but you are only interested in shining the light on the Quran. Do you not find the following distinctly repellent:

“Have you allowed all the women to live?” he (Moses) asked them. “They were the ones who followed Balaam’s advice and enticed the Israelites to be unfaithful to the Lord in the Peor incident, so that a plague struck the Lord’s people. Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man."


I guarantee if this appeared in the Quran you would be vocally condemning it -

"Kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man"


@Ghost-of-a-Duke said
Biased? Oh the irony!

Numbers 31 is just as horrible but you are only interested in shining the light on the Quran. Do you not find the following distinctly repellent:

“Have you allowed all the women to live?” he (Moses) asked them. “They were the ones who followed Balaam’s advice and enticed the Israelites to be unfaithful to the Lord in the Peor incident, so ...[text shortened]... y woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man"
Nothing about raping women. Did Moses rape anyone? How about Jesus Christ? Any reports of raping?

Now in practice... any reports of Christians raping en masse bunches of non-Christians? Nope.

however, there are dozens of reports of Muslims raping war victims in the last couple decades. They are following the example set by Muhammed?