24 Nov 04
Originally posted by ivanhoeWell, dark humor is a form of humor, nonetheless. Sometimes
His cynicism isn't funny at all. It is sick and disturbing.
it helps people to overcome sick and disturbing things if they are
able to laugh at it.
I don't find most commedians laugh-out-loud funny because their
routines are so predictable. However, I respect Bill Mahar because
he has some insightful (albeit disturbing) commentaries. He isn't
afraid to say something controversial just because it has been
labeled as obscene by conservatives.
Nemesio
25 Nov 04
Originally posted by nemesio
Well, dark humor is a form of humor, nonetheless. Sometimes
it helps people to overcome sick and disturbing things if they are
able to laugh at it.
I don't find most commedians laugh-out-loud funny because their
routines are so predictable. However, I respect Bill Mahar because
he has some insightful (albeit disturbing) commentaries. He isn't
af ...[text shortened]... mething controversial just because it has been
labeled as obscene by conservatives.
Nemesio
.... insightful .... c'mon, you can hear and read his "insights" in all the liberal media.
25 Nov 04
Originally posted by rwingettRwingo: "... He's one of the few people around who's got the guts to slam religion. "
He is very funny. I saw him live a few weeks ago. It was a great show, the man's a genius. He's one of the few people around who's got the guts to slam religion. And I don't find him to be cynical at all.
.... one of the few ? .... Are you kidding ?
Guts ? Are you kidding again ? ..... It takes guts to criticise Islam here in the Low Countries, because if you do, you either have to go underground or you run the risk of getting your throat cut.
... and you don't find him cynical ? .... we dò live in different worlds, I guess.
25 Nov 04
Originally posted by ivanhoeCynical? Not at all. He's a breath of fresh air. And yes, he's one of the few people in the mainstream media who openly bashes religion (although I don't think he's an atheist).
Rwingo: "... He's one of the few people around who's got the guts to slam religion. "
.... one of the few ? .... Are you kidding ?
Guts ? Are you kidding again ? ..... It takes guts to criticise Islam here in the Low Countries, because if you do, you either have to go underground or you run the risk of getting your throat cut.
... and you don't find him cynical ? .... we dò live in different worlds, I guess.
25 Nov 04
Originally posted by rwingettFrankly, I find him a bit over the top with religion. I have no
Cynical? Not at all. He's a breath of fresh air. And yes, he's one of the few people in the mainstream media who openly bashes religion (although I don't think he's an atheist).
problem with someone's pointing out the infelicities within
various religious practices, or hypocritical practices, or when
'separation of church and state' gets ignored, or when people
try to force their religion on others. However, I think Mahar
sometimes carries it a bit too far.
Cynical: contemptuously distrustful of human nature and motives.
You have to admit that Mahar is exactly this.
Nemesio
26 Nov 04
Originally posted by nemesioSo anyone who doesn't see things the way you do is cynical? Is that how it works?
Frankly, I find him a bit over the top with religion. I have no
problem with someone's pointing out the infelicities within
various religious practices, or hypocritical practices, or when
'separation of church and state' gets ignored, or when people
try to force their religion on others. However, I think Mahar
sometimes carries it a bit too far. ...[text shortened]... rustful of human nature and motives.
You have to admit that Mahar is exactly this.
Nemesio
I see him as one of the very few willing to stand up and take a stand against the deluge of outright christian garbage that permeates our culture. If he had no beliefs of his own and just sat back and took shots at everyone else's, then he'd be cynical. But he's a voice for liberal, secular progressivism. He's a positive voice for those ideals instead of just being negative about christian hogwash. Plus he's very funny. So I utterly reject your mistaken notion that Bill Maher is cynical.
26 Nov 04
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Originally posted by rwingettRwingo, did you read what I wrote? I said:
So anyone who doesn't see things the way you do is cynical? Is that how it works?
I see him as one of the very few willing to stand up and take a stand against the deluge of outright christian garbage that permeates our culture. If he ...[text shortened]... I utterly reject your mistaken notion that Bill Maher is cynical.
Cynical: contemptuously distrustful of human nature and motives.
This is, without question, a trait Bill Mahar (you, I, Shav, and
other so-called 'liberals'😉 share.
I'm glad he's willing to take a stand on the 'Christian garbage'
largely because most of the stuff he takes on isn't 'Christian'
at all.
However, he has a tendency to throw the baby out with the
bathwater at times on a variety of topics, especially religion,
which (despite what you might maintain) can in fact have
a positive impact upon people.
Nemesio