@no1marauder saida dog catcher saying the same thing carries just as much weight
Jurisdiction was not disputed.
State judges make decisions applying Federal Constitutional provisions every day.
😂@ marerider
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@metal-brain saidInsurrection does not require guns. Sending bogus electors to cast false votes constitutes an illegal attempt to interfere with the government's lawful procedures to transfer power to the rightful winner of the election. Phoning a state election commissioner and threatening him with legal action if he does not "find votes" constitutes felonious interference in an election. Seizing voting machines, or causing others to do so, and breaking the security seals on them constitutes felonious interference in an election. These actions fall into a clear pattern, and the pattern is called "insurrection."
@moonbus
"The state court of CO has rendered a verdict:
a) Trump engaged in an insurrection"
Did they forget to bring guns?
I thought you were going to bring the guns. I thought you were. Didn't anyone bring guns? We should have written a list. LOL!
@moonbus saidjust got to be doesnt it moonpus? 😂
Insurrection does not require guns. Sending bogus electors to cast false votes constitutes an illegal attempt to interfere with the government's lawful procedures to transfer power to the rightful winner of the election. Phoning a state election commissioner and threatening him with legal action if he does not "find votes" constitutes felonious interference in an election. Se ...[text shortened]... e in an election. These actions fall into a clear pattern, and the pattern is called "insurrection."
@jj-adams said
That's a new one, when did Trump do that?
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/what-is-fake-electors-scheme-trump-supporters-tried-after-his-2020-loss-2023-07-18/
WASHINGTON, Aug 1 (Reuters) - A federal indictment of Donald Trump issued on Tuesday included a charge that the Republican then-president and co-conspirators sought slates of phony electors to support his false claims that he won the 2020 election against Democrat Joe Biden.
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@moonbus saidI have never seen you people aviod a subject more than that of 'insurrection'. People smarter than 'Moonbus' seem to not be finding insurrection......and they are on it 24/7. I believe that this is all a personal matter, like the position of Sonhouse..........they all hate hate him. Sonhouse, for example, would rather see Biden bring us all down as he is doing, than elect Trump again. Ohhhh, he just hates him so much. I had a guy at my firm whom I could not stand, but he was quite the rainmaker.....made me money. So, I voted on everything that he proposed. But did not invite him to play golf. Do you get the picture? Biden,, non-english speaking diff cultures matriculationg with your children>>>>>>. Trump, wouldn't happen.
Insurrection does not require guns. Sending bogus electors to cast false votes constitutes an illegal attempt to interfere with the government's lawful procedures to transfer power to the rightful winner of the election. Phoning a state election commissioner and threatening him with legal action if he does not "find votes" constitutes felonious interference in an election. Se ...[text shortened]... e in an election. These actions fall into a clear pattern, and the pattern is called "insurrection."
Oh, where was I. Moonbus has apprised us all of the def of insurrection!!! A lot of prosecutors are not so sure.
I think that each of your turkeys should have your own emojis.
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@kevcvs57 saidIs that a quote?
GO TO THE CAPITOL AND FIGHT LIKE HELL
Context is everything it’s a clear unambiguous call to insurrection and a blatant coup attempt.
You can pretend to not know what he meant but only because you love authoritarian government, your only problem is with democratic government and democracy itself
Can you please provide a source?
Is that what he said?
Or are you making stuff up.
@mott-the-hoople saidYou're stunningly ignorant and proud of it.
a dog catcher saying the same thing carries just as much weight
😂@ marerider
Who do you think decides whether a search, for example, comports with 5th Amendment requirements?
Being stupid as you are is one thing, being aggressively stupid is another.
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@no1marauder said“Who do you think decides whether a search, for example, comports with 5th Amendment requirements?”
You're stunningly ignorant and proud of it.
Who do you think decides whether a search, for example, comports with 5th Amendment requirements?
Being stupid as you are is one thing, being aggressively stupid is another.
Ultimately the SCOTUS… they have ALL the power over federal laws.
But you know that dont you lawyer man courtly?
Keep doubling down on stupid, it becomes you 😂
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@mott-the-hoople saidSo you're claiming State courts can't make any decisions on Federal Constitutional provisions?
“Who do you think decides whether a search, for example, comports with 5th Amendment requirements?”
Ultimately the SCOTUS… they have ALL the power over federal laws.
But you know that dont you lawyer man courtly?
Keep doubling down on stupid, it becomes you 😂
Are you really that stupid?
That's a rhetorical question; it's pretty obvious you are.
@averagejoe1 saidA judge looked at the same evidence you and I looked at and made a ruling based on the law, not on false narratives. I happen to agree with the judge, given the evidence, the ruling is correct.
I have never seen you people aviod a subject more than that of 'insurrection'. People smarter than 'Moonbus' seem to not be finding insurrection......and they are on it 24/7. I believe that this is all a personal matter, like the position of Sonhouse..........they all hate hate him. Sonhouse, for example, would rather see Biden bring us all down as he is doing, than e ...[text shortened]... of prosecutors are not so sure.
I think that each of your turkeys should have your own emojis.
The people who don't see Trump's actions as constitutive of insurrection are captive to a false narrative or ignorant of the law, or both.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2383
<<18 U.S. Code § 2383 - Rebellion or insurrection
Whoever incites, sets on foot, assists, or engages in any rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the United States or the laws thereof, or gives aid or comfort thereto, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 808; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(1)(L), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)>>
Now, this may not be the exact statute which Judge Wallace appealed to in her ruling, but there will certainly be others of a similar formulation and intent.
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@wajoma saidGoogle ‘Trump addressing crowd on Jan 6th’ you lazy disingenuous FUD
Is that a quote?
Can you please provide a source?
Is that what he said?
Or are you making stuff up.
I’ve told you before I do not work for you and I’m not wasting my time proving that the sun is really hot or that Trump said what he said and meant what he meant, both facts qualify as common knowledge and are beyond fact checking
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@no1marauder saidState courts cannot make binding decisions on federal matters period.
So you're claiming State courts can't make any decisions on Federal Constitutional provisions?
Are you really that stupid?
That's a rhetorical question; it's pretty obvious you are.
State courts can make binding decisions on state matters.
Really simple shytweasel 😂
@kevcvs57 saidHe never said "GO TO THE CAPITOL AND FIGHT LIKE HELL"
Google ‘Trump addressing crowd on Jan 6th’ you lazy disingenuous FUD
I’ve told you before I do not work for you and I’m not wasting my time proving that the sun is really hot or that Trump said what he said and meant what he meant, both facts qualify as common knowledge and are beyond fact checking
You made it up kev bamboozle.
Why the constant comments that he incited insurrection, replete with definitions and actions of the day, when the prosecutors do not find insurrection? You all are a broken record.
Here is a small study to undertake. Be devil's advocates and tell us WHY they do not find insurrection. Ain't gonna happen, it ain't in you.