Since the left has now chosen to ignore the wars abroad after beating "Bush is a murderer" drum every day when he was in office, I decided to start beating the drum again. In doing so, I found some interesting peices of information.
Basically, I took the last two years in "W"'s administration in terms of US deaths on the battle field in both Iraq and Afghanistan and Obama's first two years and then compared. Under Obama's watch, there have been 1025 soldiers who have fallen as where under "W" there were only 735 soldiers who had fallen the last two years he was in office. The main reason the figure had risen was that Obama had escaleted the war in Afghanistan.
Adding up both US and other countries death tolls, it would appear that over 8 thousand soldiers from across the globe has fallen since both wars were started. Of course, this figure does not take into consideration the number on the other side nor the civilian totals.
Originally posted by whodey Since the left has now chosen to ignore the wars abroad after beating "Bush is a murderer" drum every day when he was in office, I decided to start beating the drum again. In doing so, I found some interesting peices of information.
Basically, I took the last two years in "W"'s administration in terms of US deaths on the battle field in both Iraq and Afgh ...[text shortened]... number on the other side nor the civilian totals.
So has it been worth it? Discuss.
How many seas must a white dove sail
Before she sleeps in the sand ?
Yes, how many times must the cannon balls fly
Before they're forever banned ?
Originally posted by robbie carrobie How many seas must a white dove sail
Before she sleeps in the sand ?
Yes, how many times must the cannon balls fly
Before they're forever banned ?
Originally posted by whodey Since the left has now chosen to ignore the wars abroad after beating "Bush is a murderer" drum every day when he was in office, I decided to start beating the drum again. In doing so, I found some interesting peices of information.
Basically, I took the last two years in "W"'s administration in terms of US deaths on the battle field in both Iraq and Afgh ...[text shortened]... it? Discuss.
http://icasualties.org/Iraq/index.aspx
http://icasualties.org/oef/
Whodey's pacifism toward the Afghan war was noticeably absent before November 2008. The Left has continued to oppose both conflicts from the beginning.
Originally posted by whodey Answer: 2,346,354,345,932,236,832,782,032,246,105,361,107,129,114,098.0009
But who's counting? 😛
Does that number represent all them lovely dollars you would save Whodey if you really curtailed military spending as No1 repeatedly points out? but what's the chances of that?
Originally posted by whodey Since the left has now chosen to ignore the wars abroad after beating "Bush is a murderer" drum every day when he was in office, I decided to start beating the drum again. In doing so, I found some interesting peices of information.
Basically, I took the last two years in "W"'s administration in terms of US deaths on the battle field in both Iraq and Afgh ...[text shortened]... it? Discuss.
http://icasualties.org/Iraq/index.aspx
http://icasualties.org/oef/
Your figures are wrong BTW; the US had 1218 fatalities in Iraq alone in 2007-08. http://icasualties.org/Iraq/ByYear.aspx
Originally posted by robbie carrobie How many seas must a white dove sail
Before she sleeps in the sand ?
Yes, how many times must the cannon balls fly
Before they're forever banned ?
Originally posted by no1marauder Your figures are wrong BTW; the US had 1218 fatalities in Iraq alone in 2007-08. http://icasualties.org/Iraq/ByYear.aspx
Woops, my bad, "W" had 1465 casualties and Obama had 1058 in a two year period. That makes "W" with 403 more casualties!!
I wonder if he can use the 403 number as a campaign slogan in 2012?
Originally posted by no1marauder Whodey's pacifism toward the Afghan war was noticeably absent before November 2008. The Left has continued to oppose both conflicts from the beginning.
Right. They just don't voclalize it in the media like they used to. Go figure?
Originally posted by whodey Woops, my bad, "W" had 1465 casualties and Obama had 1058 in a two year period. That makes "W" with 403 more casualties!!
I wonder if he can use the 403 number as a campaign slogan in 2012?
I suspect that in the 2012 campaign the Republican will be pushing for greater and longer involvement in Afghanistan than Obama is willing to publicly endorse.
Originally posted by robbie carrobie Does that number represent all them lovely dollars you would save Whodey if you really curtailed military spending as No1 repeatedly points out? but what's the chances of that?
Saving dollars? Dollars a worthless now so who cares?
Originally posted by no1marauder I suspect that in the 2012 campaign the Republican will be pushing for greater and longer involvement in Afghanistan than Obama is willing to publicly endorse.
But that's not how the game in Washtington is played. The way its played is one side criticizes the other for spending or wars etc and then gets into power and does the same if not worse.....except for McCain who wanted to stay there for 100 years or so, but then, he didn't exactly win did he?
Originally posted by whodey But that's not how the game in Washtington is played. The way its played is one side criticizes the other for spending or wars etc and then gets into power and does the same if not worse.....except for McCain who wanted to stay there for 100 years or so, but then, he didn't exactly win did he?
Obama actually campaigned on a platform of expanding the Afghan war; the differences between his position and McCain's there were nominal.
Originally posted by no1marauder Unlike you, she hasn't been a partisan hypocrite. http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2010-03-14-cindy-sheehan_N.htm
Well it's nice to see that she has not abandonded the cause, however, the reason I had no idea that she was still out there protesting was the media does not blast me with her face 24/7. Unfortunately for her, the media seems to no longer care.
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