Are humans the most intelligent species on the planet? Yes or No.
If you answered yes go on to the following:
Are there any other life forms that commit suicide or kill each other for no reason? (Exclude protecting young etc.) If so, I'd like to know which animal.
Are we really the most intelligent species if we kill ourselves? Ponder that.
Originally posted by steve645Humans don't kill "for no reason". Not normally anyway.
Are humans the most intelligent species on the planet? Yes or No.
If you answered yes go on to the following:
Are there any other life forms that commit suicide or kill each other for no reason? (Exclude protecting young etc.) If so, I'd like to know which animal.
Are we really the most intelligent species if we kill ourselves? Ponder that.
Of course humans are the most intelligent species on the planet. Nothing else comes close.
What other animals are intelligent enough to figure out so may ways to kill themselves?
Humans know more about animals than any animals know about humans.
When animals get hurt or injured seriously enough, it takes a human to fix them. They don't operate on each other. They wouldn't know where to begin.
Humans are not only productive themselves (well, a lot of us are, anyway), but we also create machines which are themselves productive. Animals don't create tools or machines which make their lives any easier.
Quotes taken from http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Do_any_animals_other_than_humans_commit_suicide (it's a long article and worth the read)
How can you deny the numerous stories of animals who deliberately hurt themselves when put in captivity, or pets who starve themselves and die after the loss of their master? The animal puts it's life in jeopardy because it is 'unhappy.'
Whether this is conscious or unconscious is the question at hand and whether this 'unhappines' leads to death, or suicide is hard to prove.
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Suicide, with regards to a seemingly deliberate action ending one's life with no other apparent purpose, is regularly engaged in by many species of animals (see some examples in the next section)- the contentious issue is whether those creatures genuinely understand the concept of death, and that their actions will result in it- that is, while the action itself may have been apparently deliberate, we can not know for certain if the desired effect was deliberately suicide (and not, for example, merely self harm).
Originally posted by steve645Yes.
Are humans the most intelligent species on the planet? Yes or No.
If you answered yes go on to the following:
Are there any other life forms that commit suicide or kill each other for no reason? (Exclude protecting young etc.) If so, I'd like to know which animal.
Are we really the most intelligent species if we kill ourselves? Ponder that.
suicide is not an indication of lack of intelligence. It's merely an indicator of having given up hope on things getting bearable. It takes a fairly high level or intelligence to overcome the biological urge to live because of a decision that life is unbearable and will not get any better.
I would say intelligence is a prerequisite for suicide.
Originally posted by sh76So bees who sacrifice themselves in order to protect the hive are "intelligent"?
Yes.
suicide is not an indication of lack of intelligence. It's merely an indicator of having given up hope on things getting bearable. It takes a fairly high level or intelligence to overcome the biological urge to live because of a decision that life is unbearable and will not get any better.
I would say intelligence is a prerequisite for suicide.
Originally posted by KazetNagorraThere's a difference between sacrificing your life for the greater good and taking it because you don't want to live anymore. The latter requires an entirely more advanced decision making process than the evolutionary instincts of the bees that sacrifice their lives.
If so, in what sense is intelligence a prerequisite for suicide?