http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123240733254895655.html
In Britain, the war in Gaza has revealed the extent to which the media, intelligentsia and political class have simply crumbled in the face of the global jihad.
The U.K. is a major player in European and world politics and is America's most significant strategic ally. Until now, it has been considered one of Israel's firm supporters and a linchpin of the Western defense against the world-wide Islamist onslaught. With the reaction to Gaza, however, that reputation is no longer sustainable.
Years of demonizing Israel and appeasing Islamist extremism within Britain have now coalesced, as a result of the media misrepresentation of the Gaza war as an atrocity against civilians, in an unprecedented wave of hatred against Israel and a sharp rise in attacks on British Jews.
Throughout the war, London's streets have witnessed a hallucinatory level of violent and explicit support for Hamas from Muslims, members of the far left and supposedly progressive individuals.
Recently, prominent British Muslims who advise ministers against Islamist extremism wrote an open letter making the veiled threat that unless the government condemned Israel there would be a rise in violence in Britain (a threat?).
muslim extremism is alive and strong in today's world.
Originally posted by generalissimoYes, anyone who dares oppose Israeli actions is a Muslim extremist. Good catch.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123240733254895655.html
In Britain, the war in Gaza has revealed the extent to which the media, intelligentsia and political class have simply crumbled in the face of the global jihad.
The U.K. is a major player in European and world politics and is America's most significant strategic ally. Until now, it has been ...[text shortened]... n violence in Britain (a threat?).
muslim extremism is alive and strong in today's world.
Originally posted by generalissimoWonder when I'll see the same sort of "moral" outrage on this site over what the Russians have done to the Chechens and others. How many have Putin's goons killed?
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123240733254895655.html
In Britain, the war in Gaza has revealed the extent to which the media, intelligentsia and political class have simply crumbled in the face of the global jihad.
The U.K. is a major player in European and world politics and is America's most significant strategic ally. Until now, it has been ...[text shortened]... n violence in Britain (a threat?).
muslim extremism is alive and strong in today's world.
True, Putin isn't a Jew, but seems at least someone might point out he's nearly as bad ... but we see nothing here about that sort of thing.
MOSCOW (AP) — A human-rights lawyer who unsuccessfully fought the early release of a Russian colonel convicted of murdering a Chechen woman was shot dead on a Moscow street Monday, law enforcement authorities said.
A journalist also was wounded in the attack, according to the deputy editor of a Moscow newspaper.
The daylight slaying of Stanislav Markelov sparked anger and grief among Russia's beleaguered rights activists and Chechens already upset by the release last week of Col. Yuri Budanov.
Originally posted by ScriabinStart a thread. For all its faults, this is a community propelled by participation and initiative, curiosity and pugnacity. Don't just gripe from the sidelines - a place you seem happy to locate yourself with your arch-snooty attitude and dreadfully cliched cut & paste insults.
Wonder when I'll see the same sort of "moral" outrage on this site over what the Russians have done to the Chechens and others. How many have Putin's goons killed? [...] but we see nothing here about that sort of thing.
Originally posted by generalissimoYou are absolutely correct!
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123240733254895655.html
In Britain, the war in Gaza has revealed the extent to which the media, intelligentsia and political class have simply crumbled in the face of the global jihad.
The U.K. is a major player in European and world politics and is America's most significant strategic ally. Until now, it has been ...[text shortened]... n violence in Britain (a threat?).
muslim extremism is alive and strong in today's world.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melanie_Phillips
The so-called "hallucinatory level of violent support" is another one of her fantasies. The police reported the events like this:
"Thousands of people expressed their views in an earlier, lawful, rally in Trafalgar Square" [...] "What followed was totally unacceptable criminal behaviour by a small minority who do not appear to care about any cause."
Originally posted by Badwaterpeople don't seem to care that much when the palestinians kill the israelis, however they're outraged when its the other way round.
Yep, I forgot that it's ok to kill civilians, women and children included, as long as you're killing "them."
extremism is not only tolerated but even supported by some people here, ''because the jews stole the land''.
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You'll notice that I didn't label who is doing the killing and who "them" is. It is evil regardless of what the source is. It is equally abhorrent and there is no contest for which side is getting more exposure or support for their point of view. Both sides lose. The evil remains.
Originally posted by generalissimoPeople are morally outraged if Palestinian fanatics kill Israelis, but look at the statistics. During this desperately sad episode in Gaza
people don't seem to care that much when the palestinians kill the israelis, however they're outraged when its the other way round.
extremism is not only tolerated but even supported by some people here, ''because the jews stole the land''.
Palestinians killed 1200+,
Israelis killed 13 and four of those were in a friendly fire incident.
That's a massacre and you can't argue with that.
Originally posted by Proper KnobPeople are morally outraged if Palestinian fanatics kill Israelis
People are morally outraged if Palestinian fanatics kill Israelis, but look at the statistics. During this desperately sad episode in Gaza
Palestinians killed 1200+,
Israelis killed 13 and four of those were in a friendly fire incident.
That's a massacre and you can't argue with that.
really? when?
but look at the statistics.
what statictics?
That's a massacre and you can't argue with that.
if there is someone to blame for this, it would be the hamas.
They're the ones who provoked israel into doing this, there are civilian casualties in every war, that doesn't mean this is a persecution against palestinians.
Originally posted by Proper KnobSo by your logic then... all self defense is disallowed. It is only moral if you thus commit a virtual suicide if attacked. That makes a lot of sense. And I agree it would make the world a better place... in your specific case.
People are morally outraged if Palestinian fanatics kill Israelis, but look at the statistics. During this desperately sad episode in Gaza
Palestinians killed 1200+,
Israelis killed 13 and four of those were in a friendly fire incident.
That's a massacre and you can't argue with that.
By your logic, then if I am killed, I can kill one of the enemy. Additive Morality. "One for you, One For me. Two for You, Two for me."
Except that if i'm too stupid to kill ALL my enemies, or at least make it not worth their while to attack me... I am dead. Hmmmm.
You are a frickin genius! We all just need to get along. I can see it all now. You are named MINISTER OF PEACE.
"Time out! Yoo hooo! You guys. Time Out. Kings X!" (wheeeeKBoom asphalt, gasoline and nails explode behind you as you march forward with your white flag... A white dove (crapping) on your shoulder) "Ok. I didn't like that. Not one bit you guys! Stop that! No shooting you guys. Time out. We need to get along here before I'm dead! Time Frickin OUT!"