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Originally posted by huckleberryhoundSince the neo-socialist government of the UK has failed to provide sufficient numbers of soldiers to do the job or to equip them properly, having to rely on US air support, it is no wonder that they having to be evacuated.
Good thing, or bad thing.....discuss.
What else could be expected from Blair?
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Originally posted by CartanBlair? Finger on the pulse, eh?
Since the neo-socialist government of the UK has failed to provide sufficient numbers of soldiers to do the job or to equip them properly, having to rely on US air support, it is no wonder that they having to be evacuated.
What else could be expected from Blair?
About as well informed as I'd expect, though.
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Originally posted by CartanWelcome back, Alcibiades - how was Skeggy?
Since the neo-socialist government of the UK has failed to provide sufficient numbers of soldiers to do the job or to equip them properly, having to rely on US air support, it is no wonder that they having to be evacuated.
What else could be expected from Blair?
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Originally posted by huckleberryhoundEntry in Iraq was not thougt out will enought as to what to do afterwards
Good thing, or bad thing.....discuss.
Another example in history, that when you try to conqure a country and people who live their will win sooner or later.
Its a good things for UK, as my tax pounds will no longers be used in an illegal war and soliders familes will sleep a little better at night
Bad thing for Bush Adminstration, makes them look like a bunch of......( your word).....
Edit: Is this a retreat / defect?
Originally posted by CartanBush supports it, so now I guess Americans have to!
Since the neo-socialist government of the UK has failed to provide sufficient numbers of soldiers to do the job or to equip them properly, having to rely on US air support, it is no wonder that they having to be evacuated.
What else could be expected from Blair?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,,2160191,00.html
Originally posted by RSMA1234We like to call it a "Sucessful exit strategy". As far as your tax pounds not being used in Iraq, that is only true to a point.
Entry in Iraq was not thougt out will enought as to what to do afterwards
Another example in history, that when you try to conqure a country and people who live their will win sooner or later.
Its a good things for UK, as my tax pounds will no longers be used in an illegal war and soliders familes will sleep a little better at night
Bad thing for B ...[text shortened]... ion, makes them look like a bunch of......( your word).....
Edit: Is this a retreat / defect?
The Brits have only Pulled back as far as Basra Airport (outside the city). In truth, there were only 550 of a 5000 force in the City itself, and acording to army sources 90% of all attacks in Basra were aimed at the Palace (where the 550 were based).
The handing over of Basra Province completes the sucessful handing over of all four provinces in Britain's charge, as the other three have already been handed over.
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Originally posted by huckleberryhoundI'd have to say that it depends.
Good thing, or bad thing.....discuss.
Pulling troops out of Basra in order to hand control over to Iraqi forces is, in my mind, 100% the correct thing to do.
The only reason that I have the slightest shred of doubt is motive. Are we truly doing this for the right reasons? And are the Iraqi forces ready for the task which is being handed to them? If they are not, then I can see this withdrawl being short lived.
Originally posted by Cartanour prime minister is gordon brown now not tony blair anymore
Since the neo-socialist government of the UK has failed to provide sufficient numbers of soldiers to do the job or to equip them properly, having to rely on US air support, it is no wonder that they having to be evacuated.
What else could be expected from Blair?
besides blair didn't make the decision it was brown
Originally posted by huckleberryhoundA sucessful exit strategy looks very much like a defeat to me.
We like to call it a "Sucessful exit strategy". As far as your tax pounds not being used in Iraq, that is only true to a point.
The Brits have only Pulled back as far as Basra Airport (outside the city). In truth, there were only 550 of a 5000 force in the City itself, and acording to army sources 90% of all attacks in Basra were aimed at the Pala ...[text shortened]... of all four provinces in Britain's charge, as the other three have already been handed over.
Did not the former foreign office official Rory Stewart, who served as deputy governer of 2 southern Iraqi provinces from 2003 to 2004, state that "we simply do not have any control over southern Iraq and that has been the situation in my mind for about two-and-a-half years now".
So not sure what has been a success
Going to the airport sounds like they are getting ready to leave, maybe 90 % of all attacks where aimed at the palace, but do you not think that they will now target the airport a bit more ?
I always thought it was classic tatics to pick on the smaller force, get rid of them first, then move on
Agreed, a little less of my tax pounds is now being used in the illegal war, so its a positve thing in general
Originally posted by CartanI doubt that very seriously. It has always been my experiance that the British soldiers were professionals and I always enjoyed working with them. I also thank them for their service and help.
Since the neo-socialist government of the UK has failed to provide sufficient numbers of soldiers to do the job or to equip them properly, having to rely on US air support, it is no wonder that they having to be evacuated.
What else could be expected from Blair?