Originally posted by SeitseI am not going to watch it. But I'll play along.
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-8717420224951230336
Watch it. And then debate.
Is it justified?
Which came first? The crime or the criminal?
Should we know each individual in the film before we form a judgement?
Is it right to keep truly evil people alive? Shouldn't they have been killed right from the start?
What purpose does it serve to observe and judge an open society that allows such "filming"? Those who use it as propaganda are almost guaranteed to be enemies of THAT free society and would not allow their own cruelty to be filmed.
Who paid for the film? And why?
More to the point... why the heck is a fat friar who likes food more than thought endulging in this kind of hate baiting?
It's always AG with these people. The pinnacle of their moral tut-tutting is some rare event of abuse. Never do they ever provide stats as to many interactions happen with prisoners everyday where nothing happens of note at all.
All they do is spout AG and break out some old case of excessive force that took place within a maximum security prison with the most violent inmates. Cases that often end up in court with the supposed 'victims' getting compensation and guards getting fired or otherwise reprimanded. Which shows pretty conclusively that there is accountability in U.S. prisons. If it wasn't we wouldn't hear about these cases and the victims wouldn't have access to courts or be provided lawyers, on the taxpayers dime, to get compensation for these abuses. Instead they always glance over why the guards took their actions and extensively highlight the worst effects.
Maybe British propagandists could take a shot at doing a balanced documentary, but I'm not holding my breath.
And what the he!! is with their constant obsessing over the U.S. anyway?
[b]Edit: Just noticed the fabulous video of Cynthia 'Crazy Eyes' McKinney on the side bar. This nutcase used to represent the people of D.C.![b]
Originally posted by SeitseA walk in the park compared to what you do to your opponents in the ring. I'm talking about your use of metal chairs and ladders against your fellow wrestlers. Gracious sakes alive!
A very well made documentary about brutality in prisons.
It may serve as a good debate:
Is it justified since the inmates are dangerous people?
How much is too much?
Etc.
Give it a try.
GRANNY.
Originally posted by SeitseI watched up to the point where they started filming outside the high security prison in Stark, Fla. It was obvious from the five minutes or so that I saw that the foreign-born narrator had an editorial axe to grind. Far from being fair and balanced, she totally sided with the prisoners, which makes me think she comes from a liberal background where they don't believe in prisons or punishment, much less the death penalty. Her report was heavy with loaded language and I'm sure all the video footage of prisoner "abuse" was chosen for maximum effect. Let me remind you, these felons are very dangerous, sometimes insane people. They're manipulative and in many cases, sociopath. Prison is a violent place, and thankfully, the threat of being sent there keeps most of us on the straight and narrow; don't ever want to go there because of the hygiene issues, let alone the prison sex. Being a prison guard is a difficult and thankless job. Consequently, you're not going to get the best and the brightest to staff these positions. Like the police, every day they go to work, they put their lives on the line, so I don't care what they do to keep the peace since they are vastly outnumbered. Prison is not a pretty place and that's a reality the narrator should deal with. Ultimately, bad people need to be exiled, executed or consigned to a place of detention.
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-8717420224951230336
Watch it. And then debate.
Is it justified?
Originally posted by der schwarze Ritterdang.
I watched up to the point where they started filming outside the high security prison in Stark, Fla. It was obvious from the five minutes or so that I saw that the foreign-born narrator had an editorial axe to grind. Far from being fair and balanced, she totally sided with the prisoners, which makes me think she comes from a liberal background wh ...[text shortened]... ltimately, bad people need to be exiled, executed or consigned to a place of detention.
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