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Have you seen this recent Supreme Court decision Mirabelli v. Bonta?

As far as I can tell, it's just more-of-the-same anti-LGBTQ rhetoric we've gotten from Republicans since Trump's first term, but what truly scares me in this decision is the Court's decision to go all in on “substantive due process”.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/supreme-court-republicans-just-seized-201500018.html

The far-right has always bitched about "leftist" judges "legislating from the bench", well, isn't this exactly what this is? Only now on a continuous and constant basis for all decisions going forward? Is this the end of America as we know it? Are we now to be throttled by unconstitutional decisions?

Tell me (and us), just how badly are we "well and truly f---ed" by this decision?


@Suzianne said
Have you seen this recent Supreme Court decision Mirabelli v. Bonta?

As far as I can tell, it's just more-of-the-same anti-LGBTQ rhetoric we've gotten from Republicans since Trump's first term, but what truly scares me in this decision is the Court's decision to go all in on “substantive due process”.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/supreme-court-repu ...[text shortened]... onal decisions?

Tell me (and us), just how badly are we "well and truly f---ed" by this decision?
It reminds me of the "major questions doctrine" that this SCOTUS spent years building as a wall to prevent Biden from doing anything unless Congress explicitly authorizes it to the letter, and then they immediately abandoned the doctrine as soon as Trump was elected, permitting him to do whatever he wants with reckless abandon.


@wildgrass said
It reminds me of the "major questions doctrine" that this SCOTUS spent years building as a wall to prevent Biden from doing anything unless Congress explicitly authorizes it to the letter, and then they immediately abandoned the doctrine as soon as Trump was elected, permitting him to do whatever he wants with reckless abandon.
That's not quite accurate; the "major questions Doctrine" was the main crutch Roberts, Barrett and esp. Gorsuch used to strike down Trump's IEEPA tariffs.


@no1marauder said
That's not quite accurate; the "major questions Doctrine" was the main crutch Roberts, Barrett and esp. Gorsuch used to strike down Trump's IEEPA tariffs.
Fine, but I stand by at least three of the conservative justices completely threw out the major questions doctrine as soon as Trump was elected. The other three are still using it as a partisan tool to frustrate specific policies that conflict with their ideologies.

All the conservatives leaned on major questions as a crutch back when Biden was president but now they're a minority. Didn't Kavanaugh also recently argue that the major questions doctrine applies but congress can be superseded by the executive branch if it's REALLY major?

Kavanaugh, Gorsuch and Barrett write that the EPA cannot regulate CO2 as a pollutant because of major questions, but Trump can implement taxes on ALL imports without any consultation with congress?

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@wildgrass said
Fine, but I stand by at least three of the conservative justices completely threw out the major questions doctrine as soon as Trump was elected. The other three are still using it as a partisan tool to frustrate specific policies that conflict with their ideologies.

All the conservatives leaned on major questions as a crutch back when Biden was president but now they're ...[text shortened]... ajor questions, but Trump can implement taxes on ALL imports without any consultation with congress?
Kavanaugh claimed there was a foreign policy exception to the MQD.

Barrett and Gorsuch were in the majority striking down the IEEPA tariffs.


@no1marauder said
Kavanaugh claimed there was a foreign policy exception to the MQD.

Barrett and Gorsuch were in the majority striking down the IEEPA tariffs.
Really tying themselves in knots.

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@Suzianne said
Have you seen this recent Supreme Court decision Mirabelli v. Bonta?

As far as I can tell, it's just more-of-the-same anti-LGBTQ rhetoric we've gotten from Republicans since Trump's first term, but what truly scares me in this decision is the Court's decision to go all in on “substantive due process”.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/supreme-court-repu ...[text shortened]... onal decisions?

Tell me (and us), just how badly are we "well and truly f---ed" by this decision?
where in the constitution does it give the govt a right to interfere with a parent/child relationship.

let me tell you something freak...leave the children out of your fuked up world

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@Mott-The-Hoople said
where in the constitution does it give the govt a right to interfere with a parent/child relationship.

let me tell you something freak...leave the children out of your fuked up world
What the heck twisted logic is this? The decision mentioned here mandates that teachers tell parents when their kids ask to be called a different name at school. Where's that in the constitution? The constitution doesn't mention that teachers don't do it, so therefore they HAVE to do it? Does that apply to everything NOT mentioned in the constitution?

Gov't rights to interfere with parent/child relationships? You made that up.

I'd honestly have a lot of questions for a parent who had no idea that little Johnny wanted a new name.

What else can SCOTUS mandate that teachers and crossing guards have to tell parents about their kids? What if their kid is a lefty soccer kicker? Is the gym coach going to jail for not telling the parents? Someone should sue.


@Mott-The-Hoople said
where in the constitution does it give the govt a right to interfere with a parent/child relationship.

let me tell you something freak...leave the children out of your fuked up world
Again, you miss the entire point quite dramatically.


@wildgrass said
What the heck twisted logic is this? The decision mentioned here mandates that teachers tell parents when their kids ask to be called a different name at school. Where's that in the constitution? The constitution doesn't mention that teachers don't do it, so therefore they HAVE to do it? Does that apply to everything NOT mentioned in the constitution?

Gov't rights to int ...[text shortened]... lefty soccer kicker? Is the gym coach going to jail for not telling the parents? Someone should sue.
Again, just like the other numbnuts here, missing the point entirely.


@no1marauder said
That's not quite accurate; the "major questions Doctrine" was the main crutch Roberts, Barrett and esp. Gorsuch used to strike down Trump's IEEPA tariffs.
Can we get your take on what this “substantive due process” decision entails and what it means for Americans going forward?

This is extremely bold for this supermajority Supreme Court to do this now, in the middle of the singular worst presidency ever. Bold, and reckless. But, as pointed out here, most Americans are going to gloss over it and react like these small-minded fools here. This has been avoided like the plague by previous Supreme Courts, even highly Republican Supreme Courts. This is NOT good news for typical Americans.

I'm extremely interested in your take on this wildly important Supreme Court strategy decision. Is this really as bad as it claims in the Yahoo article I linked? (The Vox article insists on registration to view the article.)


@wildgrass said
What the heck twisted logic is this? The decision mentioned here mandates that teachers tell parents when their kids ask to be called a different name at school. Where's that in the constitution? The constitution doesn't mention that teachers don't do it, so therefore they HAVE to do it? Does that apply to everything NOT mentioned in the constitution?

Gov't rights to int ...[text shortened]... lefty soccer kicker? Is the gym coach going to jail for not telling the parents? Someone should sue.
Nothing concerning this subject is in the constitution. I’m not the one that claimed it was dumbass.


@Suzianne said
Can we get your take on what this “substantive due process” decision entails and what it means for Americans going forward?

This is extremely bold for this supermajority Supreme Court to do this now, in the middle of the singular worst presidency ever. Bold, and reckless. But, as pointed out here, most Americans are going to gloss over it and react like these small-mind ...[text shortened]... laims in the Yahoo article I linked? (The Vox article insists on registration to view the article.)
Nothing is as bad as mistreating a child you fuked up freak

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@Mott-The-Hoople said
Nothing is as bad as mistreating a child you fuked up freak
Simple Simon. How sad.

Try learning something, although I suspect it is beyond your ken.

Read the link. All of it.


@Mott-The-Hoople said
Nothing concerning this subject is in the constitution. I’m not the one that claimed it was dumbass.
What? Maybe you're posting on the wrong thread. This one's about SCOTUS mandating teachers to tell parents that their kids nickname at school is different than their name at church.