@metal-brain saidIndeed, precedent city. Of course Biden has an untangleable mess, things for which the repubs could easily start impeachment on the day he is inaugurated. I know, I know, he hasn't done anything wrong, but why not chase him like hyenas anyway? Tit for Tat. So, why dont we just let bygones be bygones and get things rolling in this country. The Mexico-Canada thing needs some immediate attention.
Here is the case against impeachment from the law professor the news media ignored. He is basically saying what I have been saying all along, it would set a dangerous precedent. Like him, I didn't vote for Trump.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2h_vSn8Ktg
@sleepyguy saidHow come the Republican Congress had no interest in that question 5 years ago?
Piece of cake.
Just what WAS Hunter Biden up to? WHAT ABOUT that?
OK let's vote.
Next!
IF this administration is allowed to not produce a single document to Congress and able to block unquestionably relevant witnesses from testifying in an impeachment inquiry, then impeachment has been effectively written out of the Constitution. Indeed, the very idea of any type of Congressional oversight of the Executive is imperiled.
@no1marauder saidThe same reason Ford held it in for all those years about Kav.
How come the Republican Congress had no interest in that question 5 years ago?
And it's not ever about justice, just slinging poo and winning elections.
@whodey saidSo in your mind the reasons why a teenage girl wouldn't immediately report a sexual assault are the same as why a group of politicians wouldn't investigate what they considered wrongdoing?
The same reason Ford held it in for all those years about Kav.
And it's not ever about justice, just slinging poo and winning elections.
As Mr. Spock would say "Fascinating."
@no1marauder saidthere are three branches of govt...democrats would not give the third branch time to rule. you carry on with your misleading though.
IF this administration is allowed to not produce a single document to Congress and able to block unquestionably relevant witnesses from testifying in an impeachment inquiry, then impeachment has been effectively written out of the Constitution. Indeed, the very idea of any type of Congressional oversight of the Executive is imperiled.
@Sleepyguy
Yeah, Hunter wields WAY more political power than Trump EVER did. So let's CRUCIFY Hunter, Draw and quarter him. That will make EVERYTHING better, right?
@mott-the-hoople saidSurprisingly, we agree on something, Mott.
there are three branches of govt...democrats would not give the third branch time to rule. you carry on with your misleading though.
Congress should try to enforce documentary and testimonial subpoenas in court and have the judiciary once and for all reject the virtually unlimited Executive privilege and immunity claims this administration is making.
@no1marauder
So why hasn't congress been given police powers, like if they issue a subpoena and it is ignored, give them the power to yank that sucker off his or her feet and by god you WILL testify NOW. Why don't they have that power?
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@no1marauder saidWhat's unprecedented about asserting executive privilege?
IF this administration is allowed to not produce a single document to Congress and able to block unquestionably relevant witnesses from testifying in an impeachment inquiry, then impeachment has been effectively written out of the Constitution. Indeed, the very idea of any type of Congressional oversight of the Executive is imperiled.
Edit: I see you're addressing it above. So it's not the assertion of EP, but rather the Dems milquetoast acquiescence to it that bothers you? Yeah, but they're in a big hurry for some reason. Gee I wonder why?
@sleepyguy saidNo administration has ever asserted carte blanche EP combined with absolute immunity like this one has.
What's unprecedented about asserting executive privilege?
Edit: I see you're addressing it above. So it's not the assertion of EP, but rather the Dems milquetoast acquiescence to it that bothers you? Yeah, but they're in a big hurry for some reason. Gee I wonder why?
@sonhouse saidYou really don't understand how this whole republic thing works, do you? Wow. Here's a hint. It's to keep totalitarian aholes like yourself from running roughshod over everyone's rights.
@no1marauder
So why hasn't congress been given police powers, like if they issue a subpoena and it is ignored, give them the power to yank that sucker off his or her feet and by god you WILL testify NOW. Why don't they have that power?
@no1marauder saidNo administration has ever faced a coup like this either. But the Dems refusal to take it to the courts just underlines the political, not legal, nature of their whole endeavour. And so it will fall.
No administration has ever asserted carte blanche EP combined with absolute immunity like this one has.
@sleepyguy saidCongress has unlimited legal authority to impeach a president for any reason as per your constitution. The entire process is and always has been "political."
No administration has ever faced a coup like this either. But the Dems refusal to take it to the courts just underlines the political, not legal, nature of their whole endeavour. And so it will fall.
Of course, aside from that Trump would still have been charged with multiple felonies already in a society with a functional legal system.
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@sleepyguy saidThe Executive doesn't get to label Congressional oversight a "coup" and refuse to cooperate with it.
No administration has ever faced a coup like this either. But the Dems refusal to take it to the courts just underlines the political, not legal, nature of their whole endeavour. And so it will fall.
You really have no respect for the Constitution at all to support such actions at war with it's most basic principles.
If the process was simply legal, Trump's obstruction of the Mueller investigation and of Congressional oversight would be more than sufficient to constitute grounds for removal (Nixon was forced out for actions quite similar).