@Ponderable saidChemtrail is just short for chemical trail. You have to prove dry ice is not a chemical.
For me: participant in a chemical reaction.
However for use in "chem trail" and used more colloquial
directly harmful synthestic substance.
a substance obtained by a chemical process or producing a chemical effect
CO2 has to be purified. The chemical effect is water condensation from dry ice. Honor the bet.
@Metal-Brain saidChemtrail is just short for chemical trail. You have to prove dry ice is not a chemical.
Chemtrail is just short for chemical trail. You have to prove dry ice is not a chemical.
a substance obtained by a chemical process or producing a chemical effect
CO2 has to be purified. The chemical effect is water condensation from dry ice. Honor the bet.
"dry ice" is solidified CO2. CO2 consits of matter and can take part in chemical reaction, thus can be classified as "chemical".
a substance obtained by a chemical process or producing a chemical effect
That is even true for Helium, which is the least reactive sibstance. So what ever you touch is a chemical
CO2 has to be purified.
from what exactly?
The chemical effect is water condensation from dry ice.
That is a physical effect (phase change). as explaiend above.
Honor the bet.
Metal Brain is the first person in the world who found out, that there is an exhaust in jet engines and should be awarded the chemistry Nobel prize.
@Ghost-of-a-Duke saidNope. Government just doesn't want to admit they are violating the treaty.
Only in your own troubled brain. See Pondy's explanation above.
The idea that Chem trails are a source of weather manipulation is bogus, flawed and extensively debunked.
Catch up.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environmental_Modification_Convention
And people want to pass laws prohibiting it. Some states have already done that. Look it up.
https://www.newsnationnow.com/politics/rep-greene-pushes-weather-modification-ban-in-legislation/
Because MTG is bringing up the truth government doesn't want you to believe they made up a lie that she said fires were caused by Jewish space lasers. As a congresswoman she has access to info you don't.
@Ponderable saidYou are wrong and all you did was verify I am right. CO2 makes up a very small amount of the atmosphere. And you back peddled. You said this:
Chemtrail is just short for chemical trail. You have to prove dry ice is not a chemical.
"dry ice" is solidified CO2. CO2 consits of matter and can take part in chemical reaction, thus can be classified as "chemical".
a substance obtained by a chemical process or producing a chemical effect
That is even true for Helium, which is the least reactive sibstance. So ...[text shortened]... found out, that there is an exhaust in jet engines and should be awarded the chemistry Nobel prize.
"dry ice" is solidified CO2. CO2 consits of matter and can take part in chemical reaction, thus can be classified as "chemical".
You admitted dry ice is a chemical, therefore dry ice produces chemtrails.
That is not exhaust from engines as you well know. Water from engines is a byproduct of fuel burning, not an intentional spraying of a chemical.
You lost this bet because you made assumptions without checking the definition of chemical. Honor the bet.
@Ponderable saidThe bet was for me to prove chemtrails exist, not anything else.
And in the OP "aluminum" is reffered to .
So tell me how much aluminum in dry ice?
Stop trying to weasel out of the bet you lost fair and square.
@Ponderable
From the link below:
"Ahead of each public holiday, the Russian Air Force often dispatches up to 12 cargo planes carrying loads of silver iodide, liquid nitrogen and cement powder to seed clouds above Moscow and empty the skies of moisture."
https://www.channel4.com/news/weather-china-united-states-russia-cloud-seeding-haarp
China does the same thing. Honor the bet or prepare to be ridiculed.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beijing_Weather_Modification_Office
NOAA published a page addressing various ideas in regard to tropical cyclone manipulation.
In 2007, "How to stop a hurricane"[20] explored various ideas such as:
Using lasers to discharge lightning in storms which are likely to become hurricanes
Pouring liquid nitrogen onto the sea to deprive the hurricane of heat energy.
Creating soot to absorb sunlight and change air temperature and create convection currents in the outer wall.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weather_modification
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@Ponderable saidI didn't say that was the only chemical being used, just one of them. Aluminum a good conductor of electricity so would react well to electromagnetic waves, but the bet was to prove chemtrails exist as you know.
And in the OP "aluminum" is reffered to .
So tell me how much aluminum in dry ice?
https://www.bmj.com/content/377/bmj.o1150/rr-1
Cement is being used. That is a chemical with a chemical reaction to water.
I have you where I want you. Chemtrails exist. Honor the bet!
@Metal-Brain saidYeah… so, what you are saying is that some planes leave condensation behind which is a chemical reaction.
I didn't say passenger planes.
Sort of like humans.
@Metal-Brain saidAgain, as laid out in your OP, relating to deliberate weather manipulation. You are yet to prove that (by any measure).
He is technically wrong. And you are technically embarrassing yourself because you know I have him. But if you would like to make a more specific bet state the terms.
@Ghost-of-a-Duke saidCloud seeding you idiot!
Again, as laid out in your OP, relating to deliberate weather manipulation. You are yet to prove that (by any measure).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Popeye
@Metal-Brain saidYou've lost the bet moron.
Cloud seeding you idiot!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Popeye
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@Metal-Brain saidAre you seriously saying that Ponderable has to check the definition of chemical?
You are wrong and all you did was verify I am right. CO2 makes up a very small amount of the atmosphere. And you back peddled. You said this:
"dry ice" is solidified CO2. CO2 consits of matter and can take part in chemical reaction, thus can be classified as "chemical".
You admitted dry ice is a chemical, therefore dry ice produces chemtrails.
That is not exhaust f ...[text shortened]... st this bet because you made assumptions without checking the definition of chemical. Honor the bet.
Fail. I mean, that is some serious fail, right there.
What never fails is you starting these idiotic threads thinking you can actually prove anything.
@Metal-Brain saidWhy doesn't she ban magic wands while she's at it?
Nope. Government just doesn't want to admit they are violating the treaty.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environmental_Modification_Convention
And people want to pass laws prohibiting it. Some states have already done that. Look it up.
https://www.newsnationnow.com/politics/rep-greene-pushes-weather-modification-ban-in-legislation/
Because MTG is bringing up ...[text shortened]... said fires were caused by Jewish space lasers. As a congresswoman she has access to info you don't.
Maybe unicorns, too.
@Suzianne saidI posted the definition. If you had read it you would know I am right, but which chemical do you deny is a chemical? Cement, dry ice, liquid nitrogen, Potassium iodide, liquid propane or silver iodide?
Are you seriously saying that Ponderable has to check the definition of chemical?
Fail. I mean, that is some serious fail, right there.
What never fails is you starting these idiotic threads thinking you can actually prove anything.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloud_seeding
Ponderable was just foolish. He didn't know all those chemicals were used for cloud seeding and neither did you. He lost the bet and and made himself a dishonest jackass. He is supposed to create a thread called "Metal Brain was right and I was wrong" and he did not.
Ponderable is establishing a reputation for not honoring bets. He is a cad.