17 Jun 08
http://www.explosm.net/db/files/Comics/Rob/leash.png
Personally, I think using a body harness for little kids in public places is rather a good idea.
It keeps the little ones from running around acting like hooligans, prevents them from wandering off on their own which probably means that less pedos / sickf_cks have the opportunity to nab them and most importantly keeps them more or less out from under the wheels of my grocery cart.
I've seen too many parents who simply sigh and say "don't do that _ _ _, don't run there _ _ _ " etc., only to be ignored and shortly afterwards be bombarded with screams as the child injures itself on something. Personally, I don't think that form of parenting works.
Why do so many people think its "wrong", its for the child's safety and societies peace of mind, isn't it?
How can something which is not only ensuring your peace of mind as a parent, as well as teaching the child proper public behaviour, bad?
17 Jun 08
Originally posted by NatsiaI think children need to reined, after all, you never know what might happen....
http://www.explosm.net/db/files/Comics/Rob/leash.png
Personally, I think using a body harness for little kids in public places is rather a good idea.
It keeps the little ones from running around acting like hooligans, prevents them from wandering off on their own which probably means that less pedos / sickf_cks have the opportunity to nab them and most im ...[text shortened]... peace of mind as a parent, as well as teaching the child proper public behaviour, bad?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7456051.stm
17 Jun 08
Originally posted by Natsiaare you kidding me? a leash? don't you find that demeaning? why not put your child in internment camps until he is 18? so instead of being a good parent you break his spirit and take away the possibility of any action. at the country side people tie cattle to a pole and only allow it to graze in the circle of rope length radius. does it seem like a good idea for a child? perhaps you think giving sleeping pills or whiskey to toddlers so they don't scream is a good idea.
http://www.explosm.net/db/files/Comics/Rob/leash.png
Personally, I think using a body harness for little kids in public places is rather a good idea.
It keeps the little ones from running around acting like hooligans, prevents them from wandering off on their own which probably means that less pedos / sickf_cks have the opportunity to nab them and most im ...[text shortened]... peace of mind as a parent, as well as teaching the child proper public behaviour, bad?
ok to finish this thread, no i don't think it is a good idea. hopefully it ends here.
(i doubt that even DSR would have thought about this)
17 Jun 08
Originally posted by ZahlanziWhoaaa! Slow down there Capt. Repressed Urges!
are you kidding me? a leash? don't you find that demeaning? why not put your child in internment camps until he is 18? so instead of being a good parent you break his spirit and take away the possibility of any action. at the country side people tie cattle to a pole and only allow it to graze in the circle of rope length radius. does it seem like a good ide ...[text shortened]... a good idea. hopefully it ends here.
(i doubt that even DSR would have thought about this)
No, I don't find it demeaning and I do not see how restraining a child from running around freely in large CROWDED areas effectively protecting them from being kidnapped, molested or lost (Im assuming you know how VERY quickly small children can be distracted and wander off) is "breaking his spirit and take away the possibility of any action".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_James_Bulger
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Walsh
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madeleine_McCann
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Ryce
http://www.missingkids.co.uk/
http://www.missingkids.com/
Security aside, I see nothing wrong with a body harness to (NOT something strapped around the neck) take a little of the stress off of parents with children who have ADD or other forms of hyperactivity who are difficult to control.
Now... Whiskey and sleeping tablets? I only drink Bourbon and wouldn't give whiskey to my worst enemy.
17 Jun 08
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Originally posted by Natsiayou just don't understand my point.
Whoaaa! Slow down there Capt. Repressed Urges!
No, I don't find it demeaning and I do not see how restraining a child from running around freely in large CROWDED areas effectively protecting them from being kidnapped, molested or lost (Im assuming you know how VERY quickly small children can be distracted and wander off) is "breaking his spirit and take a skey and sleeping tablets? I only drink Bourbon and wouldn't give whiskey to my worst enemy.
you plan on having a being's actions restricted just so that the parents can feel more comfortable dragging their children through malls and not having to do actual parenting.
if a parent cannot control their child in a crowded area they shouldn't bring them there. it is all about restricting freedom instead of solving a problem. the future of our race being tethered and carried around like animals is very demeaning. how would you like to be leashed? who will decide what age is appropriate and what is no longer to leash a child? why allowing parents to be careless is good parenting(hey, i have him on a leash, i cannot possibly lose him so i can ignore him and worry about my own stuff)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madeleine_McCann
you are right, the parents should have brought her along to dinner on a leash. that would have prevented her to be kidnapped. or mayb, just maybe, they could have taken freaking care of her and not leave her unsupervised and brought her to dinner without a leash and kept an eye on her. but then again, who are we to demand parents to actually care and watch over their children. it almost sounds like we say to parents to renounce all their desires and do what is best for the child.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Ryce
i promised myself i wouldn't read those links because no amount of kidnappings could warrant leashes on children. but then again, your links are in fact not even remotely relevant to the point. how in the nine hells and several circuses would a leash have helped jimmy not being kidnapped? oh, oh don't answer, i know. maybe the parents should have waited for the bus, leashed jimmy and walked him home. maybe go to the park and throw him a freakin frisbee. and then on their way home they would have been picked up by chavez who had a gun and they all would have been shot. wait, not jimmy because he is safely leashed.
17 Jun 08
Originally posted by Zahlanzi😵
you just don't understand my point.
you plan on having a being's actions restricted just so that the parents can feel more comfortable dragging their children through malls and not having to do actual parenting.
if a parent cannot control their child in a crowded area they shouldn't bring them there. it is all about restricting freedom instead of sol ...[text shortened]... ounds like we say to parents to renounce all their desires and do what is best for the child.
OMGZ! Fences all around!!!! It's like a CCONCENTRATION CAMP!!1
http://www.titinpark.com/cat/img/baby.jpg
17 Jun 08
Originally posted by ZahlanziAs a parent of a boisterous boy, I think its a good idea to keep them close ,which might include mean the use of a harness. In malls I hold my boy's hand at every chance and panic if I don't him within 2 metres of me within seconds of me looking for him. I don't care what people's thoughts or beliefs on this are. Simply my boy is far, far too precious to me to run the tiny but real risk of someone carting him off... Outside of malls and parking lots he can run as far and fast as he pleases, but in large groups of madly milling people then he stays at my side.... in short, i haven't canvassed other people's opinions on this because they really don't count...
you just don't understand my point.
you plan on having a being's actions restricted just so that the parents can feel more comfortable dragging their children through malls and not having to do actual parenting.
if a parent cannot control their child in a crowded area they shouldn't bring them there. it is all about restricting freedom instead of sol ...[text shortened]... had a gun and they all would have been shot. wait, not jimmy because he is safely leashed.
17 Jun 08
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Originally posted by BluePointer
As a parent of a boisterous boy... {text shortened}} i haven't canvassed other people's opinions on this because they really don't count...
Very well said, that man.
Originally posted by Palynka
Seriously, what I'm saying here is that restricting a child's movement is not synonymous with neglect and bad parenting.
Thank you, I was just about to say that myself.
Word stealer-er!
17 Jun 08
Originally posted by FabianFnaswhich is why you don't take him to the mall. the link posted by palynka shows just a means of keeping children together in one place, they are being supervised by adults who cannot possible watch over so many without it. furthermore, in a crowded mall if a child can tank free if you hold his hand, why shouldn't he yank free if you hold his leash. and if he did, some would think its better if he had a leash, you could spot him easier by the pink rope he drags behind him.
I wouldn't let my 3 yearling go freely at the mall either. Who would? They disappear very easily, and their size makes them very hard to find too.
the bottom line is that if a child is too full of energy he should be left at home(probably not given so many sweets). if you can't be bothered to actually invest some energy in watching over your child then you might not have reproduced. children need attention, not ways to restrict their movement. one could tie one's children at home too because they might swallow something or cut themselves. nobody would childproof their house anymore. and if a child is not allowed freedom it has horrific impact on his development. i don't even agree with parents making their children go to boarding school.