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    20 May '16 20:20
    Originally posted by Zahlanzi
    no child labor, under any circumstance[/b]
    No babysitting? no newspaper routes? no helping in a place your parents own? no chores around the house?

    my kids have mandated community service as a graduation requirement. It seems like many people believe children should work and irrespective of pay.
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    20 May '16 23:14
    Originally posted by no1marauder
    I'm all for "good" public schools. One thing that would enhance their "goodness" is not forcing students to be there.
    I agree, but on the other side, I would favor not forcing people in general to pay for public schools. Let the user pay, which would force the school proprietor to show value in his product. We accept garbage public education, because it is mandated.
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    20 May '16 23:16
    Originally posted by quackquack
    No babysitting? no newspaper routes? no helping in a place your parents own? no chores around the house?

    my kids have mandated community service as a graduation requirement. It seems like many people believe children should work and irrespective of pay.
    I suspect that Z's personal uselessness is due to his life of perpetual leisure.
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    21 May '16 02:361 edit
    Originally posted by normbenign
    I agree, but on the other side, I would favor not forcing people in general to pay for public schools. Let the user pay, which would force the school proprietor to show value in his product. We accept garbage public education, because it is mandated.
    Given that public schools, like public libraries, parks and many other public goods, have significant positive externalities, I don't agree. That proposal is just a not very subtle way to abolish public schools severely disadvantaging the poor and working class (as almost all your policy preferences do).
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    21 May '16 08:06
    Originally posted by no1marauder
    Given that public schools, like public libraries, parks and many other public goods, have significant positive externalities, I don't agree. That proposal is just a not very subtle way to abolish public schools severely disadvantaging the poor and working class (as almost all your policy preferences do).
    They have to pay for them anyway, those things don't appear by goobermint majic. In some cases poor folk and working class would like to decide what their own priorities are, for example the mortgage or food rather than a park or library.
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    21 May '16 08:25
    Originally posted by Wajoma
    They have to pay for them anyway, those things don't appear by goobermint majic. In some cases poor folk and working class would like to decide what their own priorities are, for example the mortgage or food rather than a park or library.
    Yeah, or they could prefer paying for their mortgage or food instead of protection against force and fraud.
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    21 May '16 12:46
    Originally posted by Wajoma
    They have to pay for them anyway, those things don't appear by goobermint majic. In some cases poor folk and working class would like to decide what their own priorities are, for example the mortgage or food rather than a park or library.
    They get to decide .................... by democratic vote.
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    21 May '16 13:21
    Originally posted by quackquack
    No babysitting? no newspaper routes? no helping in a place your parents own? no chores around the house?

    my kids have mandated community service as a graduation requirement. It seems like many people believe children should work and irrespective of pay.
    "No babysitting? no newspaper routes? no helping in a place your parents own? no chores around the house? "
    those aren't child labour. how about you don't compare working in the summer sun for 3000$ a year in often toxic environment with a cheerleader sitting on a couch watching tv for 2 hours
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    22 May '16 02:17
    Originally posted by no1marauder
    They get to decide .................... by democratic vote.
    Right, when 49.99% vote against x, they're actually deciding in favour of x.
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