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https://www.wsj.com/articles/under-new-scrutiny-chinas-nuclear-pledge-to-ukraine-11647007200

Under New Scrutiny: China’s Nuclear Pledge to Ukraine

An unusual and mostly forgotten pledge Chinese President Xi Jinping signed eight years ago that China would protect Ukraine in the event of a nuclear attack is getting fresh attention following Russia’s invasion of its Eastern European neighbor.

China’s 2013 promise to Ukraine of unspecified security guarantees echoed the kind of commitment nuclear-armed states—including China—have long made to nonnuclear ones, assurances that the U.S., U.K. and Russia had earlier also extended directly to Ukraine for relinquishing Soviet-era weapons. Yet Beijing appeared to be promising more than it had in past commitments, and why it singled out Ukraine for such an arrangement has confounded nuclear experts ever since.

Beijing’s 2013 promise to protect Ukraine in a nuclear attack appears to now further muddy its stance on Russia’s invasion.

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@vivify said
https://www.wsj.com/articles/under-new-scrutiny-chinas-nuclear-pledge-to-ukraine-11647007200

Under New Scrutiny: China’s Nuclear Pledge to Ukraine

An unusual and mostly forgotten pledge Chinese President Xi Jinping signed eight years ago that China would protect Ukraine in the event of a nuclear attack is getting fresh attention following Russia’s invasion ...[text shortened]... ct Ukraine in a nuclear attack appears to now further muddy its stance on Russia’s invasion.
Another lying government.

Russia, China, two peas in a pod.

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@suzianne said
Another lying government.

Russia, China, two peas in a pod.
The ignorant, racist, Sino-phobic, flag-waving, white feminist Suzianne shows her western bias....

Lmao, sorry.

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@suzianne said
Another lying government.

Russia, China, two peas in a pod.
I missed where Ukraine is under "nuclear attack".

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@suzianne said
Another lying government.

Russia, China, two peas in a pod.
Ya I don't and won't ever trust either country with any type of information or alliances.

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We still need to suck up to China, with the hope they could send the Russians home from Ukraine. Won't happen of course but it should be tried, maybe offering to lift the Trump era sanctions.

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@no1marauder said
I missed where Ukraine is under "nuclear attack".
it comes with that WW3 you been flinging about

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@vivify said
The ignorant, racist, Sino-phobic, flag-waving, white feminist Suzianne shows her western bias....

Lmao, sorry.
I did get that twinge as I posted that.

Thanks for the giggle. ๐Ÿ™‚

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@no1marauder said
I missed where Ukraine is under "nuclear attack".
Uh, yeah, we'll help you but only after your country is turned to glass.

Not very reassuring.

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Russia has rules about when nuclear weapons are allowed to be used:

Their 2020 doctrine presents four scenarios which might justify the use of Russian nuclear weapons:
-the use of nuclear weapons or weapons of mass destruction against Russia or its allies;
- data showing the launch of ballistic missiles aimed at Russia or its allies;
- an attack on critical government or military sites that would undermine the country's nuclear forces response actions;
- the use of conventional weapons against Russia "when the very existence of the state is in jeopardy".

Of these 4 scenarios, none are playing out in Ukraine at the moment.
If, however, NATO put boots on the ground, option 4 suddenly becomes rather realistic.

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@shavixmir said
Russia has rules about when nuclear weapons are allowed to be used:
Of these 4 scenarios, none are playing out in Ukraine at the moment.
Despite that, Putin still put Russia's nuclear forces "on high alert" just a few days ago:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/feb/27/vladimir-putin-puts-russia-nuclear-deterrence-forces-on-high-alert-ukraine

Was Putin just bluffing? Was he just trying to make Ukraine nervous so it would yield more quickly? Regardless, his "high alert" stunt threw nukes into the discussion. It's like if you get into a fight with your neighbor and he mentions his rifle. Whether he really intends to use it or not, it still escalates the situation.

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@vivify said
Despite that, Putin still put Russia's nuclear forces "on high alert" just a few days ago:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/feb/27/vladimir-putin-puts-russia-nuclear-deterrence-forces-on-high-alert-ukraine

Was Putin just bluffing? Was he just trying to make Ukraine nervous so it would yield more quickly? Regardless, his "high alert" stunt threw nukes into the dis ...[text shortened]... e mentions his rifle. Whether he really intends to use it or not, it still escalates the situation.
There doesn’t actually seem to exist a state of nuclear high emergency.

So, it’s hot air.

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@shavixmir said
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No, no, I really cannot listen to your defense of your pay-masters without laughing.

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@shavixmir said
Russia has rules about when nuclear weapons are allowed to be used:

Their 2020 doctrine presents four scenarios which might justify the use of Russian nuclear weapons:
-the use of nuclear weapons or weapons of mass destruction against Russia or its allies;
- data showing the launch of ballistic missiles aimed at Russia or its allies;
- an attack on critical government ...[text shortened]... the moment.
If, however, NATO put boots on the ground, option 4 suddenly becomes rather realistic.
LMAO…like putin abides by rules…pitifully ignorant

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Reminds me of the days of the duchess... ๐Ÿ™‚

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