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  1. 30 Oct '14 09:35 / 2 edits
    Civil forfeiture in the United States, sometimes called civil judicial forfeiture,[1] is a controversial legal process in which police take assets from persons suspected of involvement with crime or illegal activity without necessarily charging the owners with wrongdoing. While civil procedure, as opposed to criminal procedure, generally involves a dispute between two private citizens, civil forfeiture involves a dispute between police and a thing such as a gold crucifix, a pile of cash, a house or sailboat, such that the thing is suspected of being involved in a crime. Police take the thing; to get it back, owners must prove that it was not involved in criminal activity. Sometimes it can mean a threat to seize property as well as the act of seizure itself.


    Discussed in detail here:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kEpZWGgJks

    Quote:
    "It's kind of like pennies from heaven, you buy toys you want"
  2. 30 Oct '14 15:27
    Whatever Big Brother decides is swell with me.

    After all, we have the Fab 9 in SCOTUS to put their rubber stamp of approval on everything, so what is there to debate?
  3. Standard member bill718
    Enigma
    30 Oct '14 23:40
    Originally posted by whodey
    Whatever Big Brother decides is swell with me.

    After all, we have the Fab 9 in SCOTUS to put their rubber stamp of approval on everything, so what is there to debate?
    Therein lies the rub, does it not? It's very difficult to pass laws that are designed to catch crimminals or to protect national security without creating more unforseen problems or in causing financial harm to others. Such is state of our affairs.
  4. Subscriber Wajoma
    Die Cheeseburger
    30 Oct '14 23:48
    Originally posted by bill718
    Therein lies the rub, does it not? It's very difficult to pass laws that are designed to catch crimminals or to protect national security without creating more unforseen problems or in causing financial harm to others. Such is state of our affairs.
    Creating laws is just like telling lies, once one is created you need another ten to cover the first one.
  5. 30 Oct '14 23:48
    Originally posted by bill718
    Therein lies the rub, does it not? It's very difficult to pass laws that are designed to catch crimminals or to protect national security without creating more unforseen problems or in causing financial harm to others. Such is state of our affairs.
    No bill, the problem is when you have a all powerful centralized government without checks and balances.
  6. 31 Oct '14 13:10
    Originally posted by Zahlanzi
    Civil forfeiture in the United States, sometimes called civil judicial forfeiture,[1] is a controversial legal process in which police take assets from persons suspected of involvement with crime or illegal activity without necessarily charging the owners with wrongdoing. While civil procedure, as opposed to criminal procedure, generally involves a dispute ...[text shortened]... om/watch?v=3kEpZWGgJks

    Quote:
    "It's kind of like pennies from heaven, you buy toys you want"
    What do you wish to debate? Do you favor the process or not??