Pointless, perhaps, but does it do any harm though? Political correctness gets a terrible press, but what does its really matter. No clever student is going to stop being clever because they are now told that they are successful. If it stops even one student being teased for being 'teachers pet' then it has done some good. The culture of ridiculing cleverness is engrained in our society and that's sad, but the answer is not to blindly ignore it and let another bright student get picked on for the sake of a few words. They will have their revenge when they are earning a massive salary and the cool kids are working in Macdonalds.
Originally posted by corp1131The problem is not a culture of ridiculing cleverness. but a lack of intelligence, and general knowledge. If the educational system in Britain was more effective, this wouldn't be an issue.
Pointless, perhaps, but does it do any harm though? Political correctness gets a terrible press, but what does its really matter. No clever student is going to stop being clever because they are now told that they are successful. If it stops even one student being teased for being 'teachers pet' then it has done some good. The culture of ridiculing clev ...[text shortened]... r revenge when they are earning a massive salary and the cool kids are working in Macdonalds.
Originally posted by HumeAI agree and I also think that the education system in Britain should be modelled on the European one. I have seen how both work, having taught in England and feel that what we have in France is far more effective and 'produces' more well-rounded individuals.
The problem is not a culture of ridiculing cleverness. but a lack of intelligence, and general knowledge. If the educational system in Britain was more effective, this wouldn't be an issue.
Originally posted by corp1131I think this is absurd, like one of the comments at the end says, it won't stop kids getting picked on just to change the words, you might as well at least me nice to the smart kids and encourage them. Sucessful doesn't seem nearly as good as clever. And honestly, why should we care about making the dumba**es feel stupid. I say if they are going to ridicule other students, might as well let the teachers ridicule them for being miserable failures and see if that will motivate them, encouragment certainly isn't getting those kids anywhere.
Pointless, perhaps, but does it do any harm though? Political correctness gets a terrible press, but what does its really matter. No clever student is going to stop being clever because they are now told that they are successful. If it stops even one student being teased for being 'teachers pet' then it has done some good. The culture of ridiculing clev ...[text shortened]... r revenge when they are earning a massive salary and the cool kids are working in Macdonalds.
And it is ingrained you deferred sucess.
Even if it doesn't do harm, time and effort has been wasted. There are more pressing matters to be dealt with. They should be working out how to make the dumb kids learn, then they'll be too busy to tease the smart ones.
I guess not using the word clever will make sure the cool kids don't know that the clever kids are clever any more.😞
Originally posted by UmbrageOfSnowWould you rather be successful or clever? I know I'd rather be successful (though obviously the two aren't mutually exclusive). Maybe the "dumba**es" are like that because there is not enough praise lavished upon them. Being clever is, for the most part, a natural ability. It makes not much more sense to praise it than being tall. A clever kid who puts in no effort and breezes through classes with ok grades when he is capable of much better is not successful. A "dumba**s" who works hard and achieves those same grades on effort is successful IMO.
I think this is absurd, like one of the comments at the end says, it won't stop kids getting picked on just to change the words, you might as well at least me nice to the smart kids and encourage them. Sucessful doesn't seem nearly as good as clever. And honestly, why should we care about making the dumba**es feel stupid. I say if they are going to ...[text shortened]... rtainly isn't getting those kids anywhere.
And it is ingrained you deferred sucess.
~corp 1131
P.S. I thought you would probably be right about the spelling, seeing as its not my speciality, but a quick check of dictionary.com shows that engrain is a variant of ingrain. You could at least check you are right before preaching. Who's the deferred success now?