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  1. Subscribersonhouse
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    08 May '16 15:11
    http://phys.org/news/2016-05-sea-level-islands-solomons.html

    These islands are gone or greatly reduced and whole villages have been moved and that land is gone forever now, not to come back.

    But, no big deal, right? Lots of land left around the world.

    Besides, all that extra CO2 is helping grow bigger plants, right?
  2. Standard membervivify
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    08 May '16 16:17
    The destruction of the world isn't worth the possibility of raising taxes to prevent it.
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    08 May '16 17:20
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    http://phys.org/news/2016-05-sea-level-islands-solomons.html

    These islands are gone or greatly reduced and whole villages have been moved and that land is gone forever now, not to come back.

    But, no big deal, right? Lots of land left around the world.

    Besides, all that extra CO2 is helping grow bigger plants, right?
    But....it was only a few years ago a conservative lawmaker brought a snowball to work to prove to his fellow lawmakers there is no global warming. Does this mean he was wrong?? 😲😲😲
  4. Cape Town
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    08 May '16 19:18
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    http://phys.org/news/2016-05-sea-level-islands-solomons.html

    These islands are gone or greatly reduced and whole villages have been moved and that land is gone forever now, not to come back.

    But, no big deal, right? Lots of land left around the world.
    In the case of the Solomon Islands, the people can be moved. The only real question is whether we are morally responsible to share in the cost of moving them.

    I must note that humans have reclaimed far more land than has been lost, so the worlds land masses are increasing.

    The real pain will come when very expensive properties start to be affected. Then people will realise that it would have been cheaper to do something about it sooner.
  5. Cape Town
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    08 May '16 19:20
    Originally posted by vivify
    The destruction of the world isn't worth the possibility of raising taxes to prevent it.
    There is no need to raise taxes. Why does everyone seem to think higher taxes are the only way to deal with climate change? Taxes are a powerful policy instrument but it is where the taxes are that count not how large they are. What we need it better focused taxes. So for example stop subsidising fossil fuels with tax money.
  6. Standard membervivify
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    08 May '16 19:251 edit
    Originally posted by twhitehead
    There is no need to raise taxes. Why does everyone seem to think higher taxes are the only way to deal with climate change? Taxes are a powerful policy instrument but it is where the taxes are that count not how large they are. What we need it better focused taxes. So for example stop subsidising fossil fuels with tax money.
    I agree. I was merely pointing out that *if* the need to raise taxes in order to deal with climate change arises, it's not the worst reason to do so. The mere possibility of raising taxes seems to be enough for conservatives to dismiss the seriousness of climate change.
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    09 May '16 01:142 edits
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    http://phys.org/news/2016-05-sea-level-islands-solomons.html

    These islands are gone or greatly reduced and whole villages have been moved and that land is gone forever now, not to come back.

    But, no big deal, right? Lots of land left around the world.

    Besides, all that extra CO2 is helping grow bigger plants, right?
    Scientists keep promising that Washington DC and New York and the left coast will one day be under water.

    Well why aren't they yet? I'm getting pretty pissed. 😠

    I plan on doing my part by eating an extra can of beans every day and buying another SUV and having about 30 kids.
  8. Subscribersonhouse
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    09 May '16 11:53
    Originally posted by whodey
    Scientists keep promising that Washington DC and New York and the left coast will one day be under water.

    Well why aren't they yet? I'm getting pretty pissed. 😠

    I plan on doing my part by eating an extra can of beans every day and buying another SUV and having about 30 kids.
    And move to Denver. And you can legally get stoned too. Co-incidental?
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