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College Female Fencer Refuses to compete against male trans "woman"

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@mike69 said
This has nothing to do with politics except on your side, it’s not hard to figure out. If being taken seriously means not thinking, seeing and using common sense I’ll stay like I am an individual with a brain. Get over your tds it’s all you talk about???
Pretending transgender women are men ignores 70 years of medical practice, legal protections and a SCOTUS ruling.

In 2020, the SCOTUS, in a decision authored by Trump appointee Neil Gorsuch, found that employment discrimination against transgender persons was illegal sex discrimination under Title VII of the Civil Rights Act.https://www.oyez.org/cases/2019/17-1618

Given that precedent, it's very hard to envision how Court's will uphold Trump's EO which says discrimination against transgender persons is required by Title IX of the same law.


@no1marauder said
Pretending transgender women are men ignores 70 years of medical practice, legal protections and a SCOTUS ruling.

In 2020, the SCOTUS, in a decision authored by Trump appointee Neil Gorsuch, found that employment discrimination against transgender persons was illegal sex discrimination under Title VII of the Civil Rights Act.https://www.oyez.org/cases/2019/17-1618

G ...[text shortened]... 's EO which says discrimination against transgender persons is required by Title IX of the same law.
I know, I know b b but somethings was passed and some people decided some things. Is it a man who thinks he’s a woman yes or no? By your thinking a female trapped in a male body so we should consider him a female? Either way it’s a male body competing against female bodies, wake the fuk up. But we dose him, changes nothing or for the actual females competing, mentally doesn’t count here.


@mike69 said
I know, I know b b but somethings was passed and some people decided some things. Is it a man who thinks he’s a woman yes or no? By your thinking a female trapped in a male body so we should consider him a female? Either way it’s a male body competing against female bodies, wake the fuk up. But we dose him, changes nothing or for the actual females competing, mentally doesn’t count here.
The treatments required to permit transgender women to compete in these events reduce testosterone and muscle mass. Thus, the person no longer has a "man's body". https://www.mayoclinic.org/tests-procedures/feminizing-hormone-therapy/about/pac-20385096

Redmond Sullivan's tournament results belie any claim she has any type of unfair advantage.


@no1marauder said
The treatments required to permit transgender women to compete in these events reduce testosterone and muscle mass. Thus, the person no longer has a "man's body". https://www.mayoclinic.org/tests-procedures/feminizing-hormone-therapy/about/pac-20385096

Redmond Sullivan's tournament results belie any claim she has any type of unfair advantage.
Are you listening to yourself
?, this doesn’t change the fact it’s a male body in female body sports mentally doesn’t count….


@mike69 said
Are you listening to yourself
?, this doesn’t change the fact it’s a male body in female body sports mentally doesn’t count….
I didn't say anything about "mentally", did I?

Your ignorance and stubbornness is showing,


@no1marauder said
I didn't say anything about "mentally", did I?

Your ignorance and stubbornness is showing,
Are they physically a woman?


@mike69 said
Are they physically a woman?
Suppose they've had a vaginoplasty.https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaginoplasty

Are they a man?


@no1marauder said
Suppose they've had a vaginoplasty.https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaginoplasty

Are they a man?
Are you going to answer my question? To answer your stupid question of course he’s still a man that just had surgery to add a fake vagina in order to look and feel more like a real female.

1) the vaginal interior is a unique type of mucosal tissue that has a characteristic bacterial flora. The interior of a pseudo-vagina is composed of skin (most common) or intestine (less common, more often found after a failed 1st attempt with penile skin). Both these latter have VERY different bacterial flora and risk of disease. 2) a vagina is a self-cleansing organ; its best NOT to attempt manual cleaning and most risk involves overgrowth of natural flora. A pseudo-vagina must be assiduously kept clean manually, and risk is of some fairly nasty bacterial and fungal diseases. 3) a vagina expands and reduces naturally and painlessly, without effort. a pseudo-vagina requires lifetime dilation to maintain a size safe for penetration. 3) a vagina lubricates naturally upon sexual stimulation for most women in most situations. a pseudo-vagina will always require manual application of a lubricant. With a penile skin vaginoplasty this is reasonably straightforward and similar to a woman whose natural lubrication has dwindled due to menopause. In a intestinal vaginoplasty, there IS some “lubrication”, leading some to claim transwomen can lubricate naturally, however the intestinal lubricant is not a vaginal lubricant and is associated with foul odor, erosion of the partners penile skin, and increased risk of infection for both partners. Use of an appropriate lubricant for both partners is advisable, and use of a condom is wise.

These are the big differences noted upon simple visual examination. Manual examination obviously will reveal the pseudo-vagina as a blind cul-de-sac. Which is different from a woman who has a had a complete hysterectomy.

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@no1marauder said
Pretending transgender women are men ignores 70 years of medical practice, legal protections and a SCOTUS ruling.

In 2020, the SCOTUS, in a decision authored by Trump appointee Neil Gorsuch, found that employment discrimination against transgender persons was illegal sex discrimination under Title VII of the Civil Rights Act.https://www.oyez.org/cases/2019/17-1618

G ...[text shortened]... 's EO which says discrimination against transgender persons is required by Title IX of the same law.
A full transgender transformation should include a complete overhaul of the skeleton and musculature, as well as glandular treatments or replacements so that hormonal support therapy would not be needed.

All things considered, transplanting the brain of the transitioner into a new body might be more efficient and cost-effective, with less medical risk.

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I wonder how many of the M2F athletes* are proud of the difficulties their pride, stubbornness, and lack of consideration have caused for other trans people plus the natural-born females who have found and still find these aliens in their midst, in locker-rooms and in competition.
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*of which there are probably only a dozen or so

P.S. -- I wonder if we could come up with standard rules for a barricade-hurling competition that would only be open to M2F people.


@Suzianne said
Once again, considering your story, you are so confidently wielding the wrong end of the stick.
My story?

I would agree with @AverageJoe1 that in general you prefer personal attacks to reasonable discussion.

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@Suzianne said
Their mental health is already shaky because of the huge population of arrogant morons like you. Higher rates of depression, trauma, PTSD and suicide after being bullied and harassed by people like you. Such Christian compassion.
Such an interesting way for you to scold (or dare I say rebuke) another person. No irony here, folks!

I have some other thoughts on this matter, but you are obviously not someone who is interested in any kind of thoughtful discussion of any topic.

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@mike69 said
This has nothing to do with politics except on your side, it’s not hard to figure out. If being taken seriously means not thinking, seeing and using common sense I’ll stay like I am an individual with a brain. Get over your tds it’s all you talk about???
Are you asking me?

The answer is no.


@Arkturos said
My story?

I would agree with @AverageJoe1 that in general you prefer personal attacks to reasonable discussion.
There is no "reasonable discussion" with him, or, apparently, with you.


@Arkturos said
Such an interesting way for you to scold (or dare I say rebuke) another person. No irony here, folks!

I have some other thoughts on this matter, but you are obviously not someone who is interested in any kind of thoughtful discussion of any topic.
Reminder: You do not have to play the idiot.

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