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To be 'conservative' means to be opposed to anything new, screaming about God's Will. But hey, at least they are consistent. Consistently losers! 😆

"I often say that 1883 is my favorite year in history because of all that happened in that pivotal year, and one of those things is the way modernity swept across the United States of America in a way that was shocking at the time but that is now so much a part of our world we rarely even think of it….

Until November 18, 1883, railroads across the United States operated under 53 different time schedules, differentiated on railroad maps by a complicated system of colors. For travelers, time shifts meant constant confusion and, frequently, missed trains. And then, at noon on Sunday, November 18, 1883, railroads across the North American continent shifted their schedules to conform to a new standard time. Under the new system, North America would have just five time zones.

Fifteen minutes before the time of the shift, the telegraph company Western Union shut down all telegraph lines for anything but the declaration of the new time. It identified the moment the new time went into effect in telegraph messages to local railroad offices and to the jewelers known in cities for keeping time. In offices that got the message, men had their timepieces in their hands and ready to reset when the chief operator shouted “twelve o’clock!”

In Boston the change meant that the clocks would move forward about 16 minutes; in New York City, clocks were set back about four minutes. For Baltimore the time would move forward six minutes and twenty-eight seconds; in Atlanta it went back 22 minutes.

The system was a dramatic wrench for the rural United States, bringing it into the modern world. Uniform time zones had been proposed by pioneering meteorologist Cleveland Abbe, who developed the U.S. system of weather forecasting. Having joined the United States Weather Bureau as chief meteorologist in 1871, he recognized that predicting the weather required a nationally coordinated team and worked with Western Union to collect information about temperature, wind direction, precipitation, and sunset times from across the country.

Coordinating that information required keeping time across all the stations he had set up. To do so, Abbe divided the United States into four time zones, each one hour apart, and in 1879 he suggested those zones might smooth out the chaos of the railroad systems, each trying to coordinate schedules across a patchwork of local times. Railroad executives, who were concerned that if they didn’t do something, the government would, listened to Abbe, and by 1883 they had concluded to put his new system in place.

Members of the new professional class who traveled by train from city to city were on board because they thought the need to regularize train schedules was imperative. But standard time was controversial. In the United States, people had operated entirely by the rhythms of the sun until the establishment of factories in New England in the 1830s, and most people still lived by those rhythms, their local time adjusting to solar time according to their geographical location.

Telling the time by sundial and history not only was custom, but also was understood as following God’s time. The idea of overriding traditional timekeeping because of the needs of the modern world seemed positively sacrilegious. “People…must eat, sleep and work…by railroad time,” wrote a contributor to the Indianapolis Daily Sentinel. “People will have to marry by railroad time…. Ministers will be required to preach by railroad time…. Banks will open and close by railroad time; notes will be paid or protested by railroad time.”

The mayor of Bangor, Maine, vetoed an ordinance in favor of standard time, saying it was unconstitutional, that it changed the immutable law of God, that the people didn’t want it, and that it was hard on the working men because it changed day into night. Those planning for a switch to standard time tried to ease fears by providing that Americans would operate on both local time and standard time, with both times represented on clocks.

On November 18, no one quite knew what the dramatic wrench into the future might mean.

What did it mean to gain or lose time? Many people expected “a sensation, a stoppage of business, and some sort of a disaster, the nature of which could not be exactly ascertained,” a New York Times reporter recorded. As the great moment approached, people crowded the streets in front of jewelers to see the “great transformation.”

They were disappointed when, after all the buildup, the future arrived quietly.

The New York Times explained: “When the reader of THE TIMES consults his paper at 8 o’clock this morning at his breakfast table it will be 9 o’clock in St. John, New Brunswick, 7 o’clock in Chicago, or rather in St. Louis—for Chicago authorities have refused to adopt the standard time, perhaps because the Chicago meridian was not selected as the one on which all time must be based—6 o’clock in Denver, Col. and 5 o’clock in San Francisco. That is the whole story in a nut-shell.” - HCR

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On a loop... 😆

Progressives: "Hey this is a really cool idea!"
Conservatives: "We are against this."
P: "Why? It solves a lot of problems?"
C: "We have always done it the other way."
P: "Right but that lead to difficulties. So this is a neat solution."
C: "...It is... against God's will."
P {laughing}: "What?"
C: "You LAUGH at our Beliefs?"
P: "Well, no, not really. It's just, I mean, who told you...?"
C: "You openly mock us?!"
P: "Hey, hold on now..."
C: "You MOCK and HATE us! You are haters!"
P: "Look, I don't even know you. You are the ones bringing emotion into this."
C: "HATERS! THEY HATE US! THEY ARE VILE AND FULL OF HATE!"
P: "OK, now you are really projecting..."


@spruce112358 said
To be 'conservative' means to be opposed to anything new, screaming about God's Will. But hey, at least they are consistent. Consistently losers! 😆
Your statement is wrong on all counts.


@Cliff-Mashburn said
Your statement is wrong on all counts.
Seriously, I do not get your point.
I guess I could say with your logic that I hated the change that came about when we started paying money to people that crossed over into our country legally or illegally. That did not happen at Ellis Island. So that change really piszes (pizzed) me off.
Surely you don’t want a plethora of AJoe analogies.

Your post is laborious, but improving the keeping, and efficient application, of time was a dam good idea in my book.


@AverageJoe1 said
I hated the change that came about when we started paying money to people that crossed over into our country legally or illegally. That did not happen at Ellis Island.
Before, we turned away boatloads of Jews, some of whom went back to Germany to die in the camps. So liberals decided to change that and grant 'asylum' to certain 'refugees.' Sorry if that costs you $5/year. 😆


I’m sure American conservatives are inbred to some extent.
I’ve had to suffer reading their comments in this forum for years and the things they come away with are either racist, sexist or so far off the normal political spectrum one can only assume there’s brain damage there to some degree.

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@Cliff-Mashburn
Why don't you tell us what it is to be a conservative in Trump world these days?

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@sonhouse said
@Cliff-Mashburn
Why don't you tell us what it is to be a conservative in Trump world these days?
Like being in heaven.

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@Cliff-Mashburn
You mean like THESE conservatives?

https://wisconsinexaminer.com/2024/11/01/anti-trump-conservatives-wind-up-campaign-with-a-fusillade-of-billboards/


@sonhouse said
@Cliff-Mashburn
You mean like THESE conservatives?

https://wisconsinexaminer.com/2024/11/01/anti-trump-conservatives-wind-up-campaign-with-a-fusillade-of-billboards/
Those are models and actors, not real people.
I could easily find videos of REAL people that WERE Dems that are saying the same thing and switched to The Don.
Bless their hearts..

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@Cliff-Mashburn
I wonder if you will keep saying that when Trump has taken over DOJ, Senate, House and SCOTUS?
Matt Gaetz is exactly the person Trump wants as AG because he is a certified puppet of Trump, and has been for years.
So Trump tells Matt, Kimmel PISSES ME OFF, I want you to arrest that son of a bitch.
THAT is what it means to take over DOJ.
This is not prophecy, this is based on what he already has done, if you remember William Barr, his LAST puppet but even he could not stand the BS Trump spewed so bowed out.
It will be exactly like that except far worse because Gaetz has absolutely no morals and will ALWAYS do exactly what Trump wants and Trump knows that 100%.

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@sonhouse said
@Cliff-Mashburn
I wonder if you will keep saying that when Trump has taken over DOJ, Senate, House and SCOTUS?
Matt Gaetz is exactly the person Trump wants as AG because he is a certified puppet of Trump, and has been for years.
So Trump tells Matt, Kimmel PISSES ME OFF, I want you to arrest that son of a bitch.
THAT is what it means to take over DOJ.
This is not proph ...[text shortened]... aetz has absolutely no morals and will ALWAYS do exactly what Trump wants and Trump knows that 100%.
Barr stayed on as AG with Trump until the end of December 2020, a few weeks before Biden was inaugurated. You don't know what you are talking about.
"Barr is a longtime proponent of the unitary executive theory of nearly unfettered presidential authority over the executive branch of the U.S. government."
Look it up.

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@Cliff-Mashburn said
Your statement is wrong on all counts.
it's the very definition of the word, dumbass

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@Zahlanzi said
it's the very definition of the word, dumbass
No idea what post you are referring to.

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@Cliff-Mashburn said
No idea what post you are referring to.
yes, you often have no idea what the fuk you or others are saying, that's true