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I've noted that certain RHP posters appear to be on a crusade to sway popular opinion when it comes to the American election. This is not debating. This is not a discussion of issues. It has no place in this forum. A constant barrage of threads designed soley to smear Barack Obama is SPAM.

Why this is tolerated, I have no idea.

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Originally posted by uzless
I've noted that certain RHP posters appear to be on a crusade to sway popular opinion when it comes to the American election. This is not debating. This is not a discussion of issues. It has no place in this forum. A constant barrage of threads designed soley to smear Barack Obama is SPAM.

Why this is tolerated, I have no idea.
Just because I'm so much more better at it than jlilly is no reason to stifle debate. Besides, where else are you going to see this stuff since the dinosaur media (which btw is in the tank for an Obama win in case you hadn't noticed) refuses to cover it?

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Originally posted by uzless
I've noted that certain RHP posters appear to be on a crusade to sway popular opinion when it comes to the American election. This is not debating. This is not a discussion of issues. It has no place in this forum. A constant barrage of threads designed soley to smear Barack Obama is SPAM.

Why this is tolerated, I have no idea.
the ratio is about 10000 to 1 for negative McCain/anti-American posts vs neg. obama posts on RHP. These forums are simply a platform for anti-American and liberal propaganda. It's funny, though, how a little anti-obama or mccain support is turned into Obama smearing. You guys sure can dish it out but can't take it at all.

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Haha, instead of giving a constructive answer, there are already 2 posts trying to smear obama and glorify mccain. Such irony.

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Your post did make me think about the debate function of this site. Thank you.

But...

I do have to agree, as far as what really got me started here were all the anti-America(n) posts that I saw. It was just a bash-fest for liberals & European's, and I got tired of seeing the unchecked, inaccurate statements that were being tossed at my country. I love the USA. I know its not perfect, but like having a brother or sister, I can pick on them, but if your not part of this family ...watchout.

I challage all of you to not bring up topics that include sex, politics, or religion. I won't, but if you do, I will respond. I don't think the anti-USA, anti-Bush, andti-McCain, anti-Palin, anti-God, pro-abortion, pro-Obama, pro-big government folks can do it.

I challenge the moderator to remove everything that is not debate material.

What do you think?

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Originally posted by der schwarze Ritter
Just because I'm so much more better at it than jlilly is no reason to stifle debate. Besides, where else are you going to see this stuff since the dinosaur media (which btw is in the tank for an Obama win in case you hadn't noticed) refuses to cover it?
Put it all in 1 thread.

Call it "Obama Debunking thread"

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Originally posted by Dace Ace
Your post did make me think about the debate function of this site. Thank you.

But...

I do have to agree, as far as what really got me started here were all the anti-America(n) posts that I saw. It was just a bash-fest for liberals & European's, and I got tired of seeing the unchecked, inaccurate statements that were being tossed at my country. I l ...[text shortened]... allenge the moderator to remove everything that is not debate material.

What do you think?
You make the classic mistake of equating bashing the current government to bashing America. This is the reason that everyone, liberals and Europeans, as well as Asians, South Americans, Central Americans, Africans, Australians and penguins in Antarctica hate Republicans.

This is certainly of topic for this thread, sorry.

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Originally posted by CliffLandin
You make the classic mistake of equating bashing the current government to bashing America. This is the reason that everyone, liberals and Europeans, as well as Asians, South Americans, Central Americans, Africans, Australians and penguins in Antarctica hate Republicans.

This is certainly of topic for this thread, sorry.
Wrong again Clifford. While in the Mall i saw two beautiful blonde penguins approaching me. Not only did they not hate me, but they obviousle thought i was mucho sexy. I know this 'cause one blonde turned to the other and said, "Look at the kisser on that guy"

GRANNY.

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Originally posted by Dace Ace
Your post did make me think about the debate function of this site. Thank you.

But...

I do have to agree, as far as what really got me started here were all the anti-America(n) posts that I saw. It was just a bash-fest for liberals & European's, and I got tired of seeing the unchecked, inaccurate statements that were being tossed at my country. I l ...[text shortened]... allenge the moderator to remove everything that is not debate material.

What do you think?
I think that making generalization lumping all people together in the following group

anti-USA, anti-Bush, andti-McCain, anti-Palin, anti-God, pro-abortion, pro-Obama, pro-big government

Is unhelpful. First, being against the current administrations policies is certainly NOT anti-American. It might be against your personal views. This is part of life in a large society. People will have conflicting views. However, this mentality is detrimental to a DIALOGUE. I am proud of my country and I am proud of the freedoms that it stands for.

Second, you should be careful in your assumptions. I am not pro-abortion. I think that abortion law should be up to the State. I am not pro-"big govt.". However, I am certainly no libertarian. We have govt. for a reason. Let's continue to use our democracy to determine what level of govt. that the majority would like to have.

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Originally posted by smw6869
Wrong again Clifford. While in the Mall i saw two beautiful blonde penguins approaching me. Not only did they not hate me, but they obviousle thought i was mucho sexy. I know this 'cause one blonde turned to the other and said, "Look at the kisser on that guy"

GRANNY.
Ok, I'll give you the penguins.

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Originally posted by MrHand
I think that making generalization lumping all people together in the following group

Mr Hand,

I did not assume anything about you.

My point is that those types of folks will be the first to smear. Then cry that "They are picking on me!"

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I took your post to mean the majority of people that are against the current administration.

You spoke in a sweeping generalism. The counter statement to your original statement would be something like "all of the Rush limbaugh neo-con parrots would rather bomb the rest of the world and arrest anyone that disagrees with them."

My point is that I don't think it is productive to attack people for having certain views...especially not broad groups of people. Lets discuss the views, not character attacks.

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There are 20 different threads about republicans/democrats currently.

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Originally posted by uzless
There are 20 different threads about republicans/democrats currently.
how long did it take you to count?! 🙂

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Originally posted by MrHand
how long did it take you to count?! 🙂
well the knot in my shoe broke off so it took a while to find a fork to undo the laces. But once i got the shoe off the counting went much faster!

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