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    18 Aug '16 09:22
    http://metro.co.uk/2016/06/07/someone-finally-fixed-that-letter-written-by-the-stanford-rapists-father-5928645/

    As it stands now, Brock’s life has been deeply altered forever by the events (raping an unconscious woman) of Jan 17th and 18th. He will never be his happy go lucky self with that easy going personality and welcoming smile that was there the whole time he was raping a young woman thinking he wouldn’t get caught.
    His every waking minute is consumed with not taking responsibility for the rape he committed. You can see this in his face, the way he walks, the fact that he took the girl he raped to trial and blamed it on her, his weakened voice, his lack of appetite.
    Brock always enjoyed certain types of food before he raped someone and is a very good cook himself. I was always excited to buy him a big rib eye steak to grill, but it just wasn’t the same after he raped an innocent young woman. I had to make sure to hide some of my favourite pretzels or chips because I knew they wouldn’t be around long after Brock walked in from swim practice, but these cute details don’t have anything to do with the rape he committed. Now he barely consumes any foods and eats only to exist because he screwed his own life and many other lives up by raping someone.
    The verdicts have broken and shattered him and our family in so many ways, because our son is now a rapist. His life will never be the one that he dreamed about and worked so hard to achieve, the one where he gets to rape a beautiful strong human being and then go back to his swim meet.
    This is a steep price to pay for 20 minutes of action i.e. raping someone out of his 20 plus years of life. This isn’t like the three second rule for food, rape still counts no matter how many seconds it lasts. This is rape.
    The fact that he now has to register as a sexual offender for the rest of his life forever alters where he can live, visit, work, rape, and how he will be able to interact with people who don’t want to be raped and organisations who don’t want their employees to be raped.
    What I know as his father is that incarceration is not the punishment for Brock, but a longer punishment meant for a rapist. He has no prior criminal history (aside from this rape) and has never been violent to anyone (except for the rape) including his “actions” (and you know what that means – rape) on the night of Jan 17th 2015. Bringing up the fact that this was only his first rape is like bringing up that it’s somebody’s first murder or first terror attack, so it’s still a crime.
    Brock can do so many positive things as a contributor to society, but instead he chose to rape someone, and is totally committed to educating other college students about the dangers of alcohol consumption and sexual promiscuity, which is irrelevant because he should be talking about how he shouldn’t have raped someone.
    By having people like Brock educate others on college campuses is how society can begin to break the cycle of drinking and its unfortunate results and get misinformation from a rapist with a light sentence.
    Probation is the best answer for Brock in this situation and allows him to give back to society in an unjust and seriously creepy way.
    Very respectfully and ignorantly,
    Dan A. (father of a rapist) Turner.
  2. Subscribersonhouse
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    18 Aug '16 09:40
    Originally posted by Zahlanzi
    http://metro.co.uk/2016/06/07/someone-finally-fixed-that-letter-written-by-the-stanford-rapists-father-5928645/

    As it stands now, Brock’s life has been deeply altered forever by the events (raping an unconscious woman) of Jan 17th and 18th. He will never be his happy go lucky self with that easy going personality and welcoming smile that was there the wh ...[text shortened]... nd seriously creepy way.
    Very respectfully and ignorantly,
    Dan A. (father of a rapist) Turner.
    Yeah, poor mis-understood dude.

    We should start a cloud account to donate money to this poor chap, I'm sure he will need it now that his life has been so torn apart by all this hooplaw.

    In fact, we should start a foundation for the support of rapists, I'm sure they are all decent folks underneath and just need extra love and support.
  3. Standard membersh76
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    18 Aug '16 14:36
    Originally posted by Zahlanzi
    http://metro.co.uk/2016/06/07/someone-finally-fixed-that-letter-written-by-the-stanford-rapists-father-5928645/

    As it stands now, Brock’s life has been deeply altered forever by the events (raping an unconscious woman) of Jan 17th and 18th. He will never be his happy go lucky self with that easy going personality and welcoming smile that was there the wh ...[text shortened]... nd seriously creepy way.
    Very respectfully and ignorantly,
    Dan A. (father of a rapist) Turner.
    Does it always take 10 weeks for news to reach Romania?
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    18 Aug '16 18:12
    Originally posted by sh76
    Does it always take 10 weeks for news to reach Romania?
    yes, because one has to read absolutely every piece of information the second it comes out on every subject, especially a piece of sarcasm written (though brilliantly) on twitter by an unknown (to the level of not having a wikipedia page) actress who starred in 2 short movies.
  5. Zugzwang
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    18 Aug '16 20:214 edits
    Originally posted by sonhouse to Zahlanzi
    Yeah, poor mis-understood dude.

    We should start a cloud account to donate money to this poor chap, I'm sure he will need it now that his life has been so torn apart by all this hooplaw.

    In fact, we should start a foundation for the support of rapists, I'm sure they are all decent folks underneath and just need extra love and support.
    "I'm sure they [rapists] are all decent folks underneath and just need extra love and support."
    --Sonhouse

    Since ancient history, many warriors have raped women in places that they conquered or occupied.
    These rapists usually avoid punishment and are welcomed home by their families and communities.
    Some of these men even feel free to boast about the women or girls (how many or how pretty)
    whom they have raped or to claim that their victims must have enjoyed their rapes.

    My point is that rapists are not necessarily treated as pariahs. Rape is often condoned.
    Every sensible woman should be aware of that reality as well as her own vulnerability.

    Her rapist is not necessarily the stereotypical creepy-looking man lurking in the bushes.
    Her rapist may be a man who's respected and liked by most people, including other women.
    If avoiding rape were as simple as avoiding stereotypical rapists, women would have much less to worry about.
  6. Standard membersh76
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    18 Aug '16 20:56
    Originally posted by Zahlanzi
    yes, because one has to read absolutely every piece of information the second it comes out on every subject, especially a piece of sarcasm written (though brilliantly) on twitter by an unknown (to the level of not having a wikipedia page) actress who starred in 2 short movies.
    Just tweaking you, z. Relax. 😉
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    19 Aug '16 08:48
    Originally posted by sh76
    Just tweaking you, z. Relax. 😉
    just pointing out how pointless your comment was, relax
  8. Subscribersonhouse
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    19 Aug '16 10:10
    Originally posted by Duchess64
    "I'm sure they [rapists] are all decent folks underneath and just need extra love and support."
    --Sonhouse

    Since ancient history, many warriors have raped women in places that they conquered or occupied.
    These rapists usually avoid punishment and are welcomed home by their families and communities.
    Some of these men even feel free to boast about the ...[text shortened]... ape were as simple as avoiding stereotypical rapists, women would have much less to worry about.
    I have heard about the deliberate technique of using rape as a weapon in some tribe wars in Africa, where the woman raped is now a pariah in her own village.

    That takes disgusting to new levels for me anyway.
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