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    21 Nov '18 17:36
    https://twitter.com/SenSanders/status/1065291512597159936?s=19

    In the US, of course.
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    21 Nov '18 17:47
    Clearly a worthy sacrifice for upsetting the liberals.
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    21 Nov '18 17:49
    @zahlanzi said
    https://twitter.com/SenSanders/status/1065291512597159936?s=19

    In the US, of course.
    very sad
    many more to follow
    only in America
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    21 Nov '18 18:071 edit
    As I understand it America is the wealthiest country in the world; tell me again why comprehensive healthcare isn't unilaterally provided free of charge to all citizens?
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    @divegeester said
    As I understand it America is the wealthiest country in the world; tell me again why comprehensive healthcare isn't unilaterally provided free of charge to all citizens?
    because America is morally bankrupt and the election of Trump, well what more is there to say
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    @lemondrop said
    because America is morally bankrupt and the election of Trump, well what more is there to say
    I don't accept that generalisation and Trump cannot be blamed for everything.
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    @divegeester said
    I don't accept that generalisation and Trump cannot be blamed for everything.
    that's the way it is
    if Trump supported health care for all
    we would have it
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    21 Nov '18 18:26
    @divegeester said
    As I understand it America is the wealthiest country in the world; tell me again why comprehensive healthcare isn't unilaterally provided free of charge to all citizens?
    There is no such thing as providing for free of charge. It would be far more accurate for you to say that you wish other tax payers would pay for him. Furthermore, Medicaid covers the medical expenses of the poor... so you are asking for tax payers to pay for someone who could afford his medicine but wished to use it elsewhere.
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    21 Nov '18 18:33
    @quackquack said
    There is no such thing as providing for free of charge. It would be far more accurate for you to say that you wish other tax payers would pay for him. Furthermore, Medicaid covers the medical expenses of the poor... so you are asking for tax payers to pay for someone who could afford his medicine but wished to use it elsewhere.
    I see. So you think Sanders has made up the case cited in the OP?
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    @divegeester said
    As I understand it America is the wealthiest country in the world; tell me again why comprehensive healthcare isn't unilaterally provided free of charge to all citizens?
    The main reason is that bribery is legal in the United States, so that health insurance companies can simply bribe politicians to oppose common sense reforms to ensure efficiency and access to health care.
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    21 Nov '18 18:501 edit
    @kazetnagorra said
    The main reason is that bribery is legal in the United States, so that health insurance companies can simply bribe politicians to oppose common sense reforms to ensure efficiency and access to health care.
    (KazetNagorra replied to Divegeester.)

    Another reason is that Americans have long been 'brainwashed' into believing that
    universal health care is Communistic or will inevitably lead to Communism.

    I knew a financially struggling American (studying for a PhD) who could not afford
    health insurance yet who opposed universal health care for that reason.
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    @kazetnagorra said
    The main reason is that bribery is legal in the United States, so that health insurance companies can simply bribe politicians to oppose common sense reforms to ensure efficiency and access to health care.
    Bribery obviously isn't legal but I understand your exaggeration There are many groups that have influence .... many of which want more health care. Unions "bribe" politicians quid pro quo style more than any other group and they have an interest in increasing access to health care for their members and pharmaceutical companies which also lobby extensively and have an interest in increased access to health care so they can make more sales.
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    21 Nov '18 19:151 edit
    @zahlanzi said
    https://twitter.com/SenSanders/status/1065291512597159936?s=19

    In the US, of course.
    But....but......but.....Obamacare.

    Still can't own it, can ya?
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    21 Nov '18 19:25
    @divegeester said
    As I understand it America is the wealthiest country in the world; tell me again why comprehensive healthcare isn't unilaterally provided free of charge to all citizens?
    Yeah, and Americans want to know why, too.

    The problem is that a lot of politicians are in the pocket of Big Pharma.

    I take Humalog, and yes, it's gotten more expensive. Fortunately, I have good insurance, but the deductibles are just too high.
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    @quackquack said
    There is no such thing as providing for free of charge. It would be far more accurate for you to say that you wish other tax payers would pay for him. Furthermore, Medicaid covers the medical expenses of the poor... so you are asking for tax payers to pay for someone who could afford his medicine but wished to use it elsewhere.
    F***ing Republicans.

    How do you sleep at night?
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