Dead at 26 because he couldn't afford insulin

@kazetnagorra said
The main reason is that bribery is legal in the United States, so that health insurance companies can simply bribe politicians to oppose common sense reforms to ensure efficiency and access to health care.

Yes, unfortunately, corporate lobbying is still legal.

@whodey said
But....but......but.....Obamacare.

Still can't own it, can ya?

If Obamacare had been left alone by the Republicans (or even supported), instead of gutted nearly completely in an effort to strangle it, it would be working for many more Americans and those who fall in the 'gap' between making too much to get assistance and not enough to afford insurance (like this kid in the OP) could get the healthcare they need.

The left has no problem 'owning' the ACA, whodey. What they DON'T 'own' is the carnal greed of those trying to get rid of it, which many in YOUR party refuse to 'own'.

@suzianne said
Yes, unfortunately, corporate lobbying is still legal.

"Lobbying" is legal everywhere, but in functional democracies that just means some douche trying to convince politicians. In the U.S. it is legal to accept money from said lobbyists in quid pro quo arrangements, as long as you don't then immediately run to the cops and hand yourself in. A well-known example is Donald Trump bribing Pam Bondi to drop the investigation into Trump University, an arrangement that would have landed both of them in court and jail in most Western democracies (probably even Italy).

@kazetnagorra said
"Lobbying" is legal everywhere, but in functional democracies that just means some douche trying to convince politicians. In the U.S. it is legal to accept money from said lobbyists in quid pro quo arrangements, as long as you don't then immediately run to the cops and hand yourself in. A well-known example is Donald Trump bribing Pam Bondi to drop the investigation into ...[text shortened]... would have landed both of them in court and jail in most Western democracies (probably even Italy).

Yes, I grant you that and I agree. The underlying problem is rampant greed, and a government system that facilitates it and apparently operates in a "Gordon Gecko" style, insisting that "greed is good".

@kazetnagorra said
"Lobbying" is legal everywhere, but in functional democracies that just means some douche trying to convince politicians. In the U.S. it is legal to accept money from said lobbyists in quid pro quo arrangements, as long as you don't then immediately run to the cops and hand yourself in. A well-known example is Donald Trump bribing Pam Bondi to drop the investigation into ...[text shortened]... would have landed both of them in court and jail in most Western democracies (probably even Italy).

Your ridiculous conspiracy theory is noted. Perhaps you should hang out with Holocaust deniers or people who believe we ever sent man to the moon. But in the real world the president of the US didn't simply bribe someone to stop an investigation.

@quackquack said
Your ridiculous conspiracy theory is noted. Perhaps you should hang out with Holocaust deniers or people who believe we ever sent man to the moon. But in the real world the president of the US didn't simply bribe someone to stop an investigation.

Reality is soooo ridiculous:

Bondi has been criticized for some of her election fundraising activities, including questions raised about contributions from Donald Trump and his associates.[18] The Florida Attorney General's office received at least 22 fraud complaints about Trump University. In 2013 a spokesperson for Bondi announced that her office was considering joining a lawsuit initiated by New York's Attorney General against Trump regarding tax fraud.[19][20] Four days later 'And Justice for All', a political action committee (PAC) established by Bondi to support her re-election campaign, received a $25,000 donation from the Donald J. Trump Foundation, after which Bondi declined to join the lawsuit against Trump University. In June of 2016, as Bondi was facing renewed criticism over the Trump donation and its aftermath, her spokesman said that Bondi personally solicited the donation from Trump several weeks before her office announced it was considering joining the lawsuit against him.[20][21][22] That claim called into question what the Trump Foundation had asserted about the nature of the donation three months earlier, in March 2016. After Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (CREW) filed a complaint with the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) about the potentially illegal donation, the Trump Foundation stated that the donation had been made in error, and that the Foundation had intended for it to go not to Bondi's PAC but instead to an unrelated Kansas non-profit called Justice for All.[23][24] When the controversy first arose in 2013, both the Bondi PAC and Donald Trump had defended the propriety of the political donation.[25][26] On March 14, 2016, Bondi endorsed Trump in the Florida presidential primary, saying she has been friends with Trump "for many years."[27][28] In June 2016, a spokesperson for Governor Rick Scott stated that the state's ethics commission is looking into the matter.[29] In September 2016, the IRS concluded that the donation to Bondi's PAC violated laws against political contributions from nonprofit organizations, and ordered Donald Trump to pay a fine for the illegal contribution. Trump also reimbursed the foundation the sum that had been donated to Bondi.[30] Neither Bondi nor her PAC were fined or criminally charged for soliciting and accepting an illegal donation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pam_Bondi

@zahlanzi said
https://twitter.com/SenSanders/status/1065291512597159936?s=19

In the US, of course.

So happy I live in good old Blighty.

@kazetnagorra said
Reality is soooo ridiculous:

Bondi has been criticized for some of her election fundraising activities, including questions raised about contributions from Donald Trump and his associates.[18] The Florida Attorney General's office received at least 22 fraud complaints about Trump University. In 2013 a spokesperson for Bondi announced that her office was conside ...[text shortened]... d for soliciting and accepting an illegal donation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pam_Bondi

Well, if Wikipedia says it's true then it has to be true.

@suzianne said
If Obamacare had been left alone by the Republicans (or even supported), instead of gutted nearly completely in an effort to strangle it, it would be working for many more Americans and those who fall in the 'gap' between making too much to get assistance and not enough to afford insurance (like this kid in the OP) could get the healthcare they need.

The left has no probl ...[text shortened]... own' is the carnal greed of those trying to get rid of it, which many in YOUR party refuse to 'own'.

It's all the GOP's fault?

Wow, I never saw that one coming.

Who knew?

@quackquack said
Well, if Wikipedia says it's true then it has to be true.

Those numbers in between square brackets indicate sources.

@quackquack said
There is no such thing as providing for free of charge. It would be far more accurate for you to say that you wish other tax payers would pay for him. Furthermore, Medicaid covers the medical expenses of the poor... so you are asking for tax payers to pay for someone who could afford his medicine but wished to use it elsewhere.

"Medicaid covers the medical expenses of the poor"


No, it doesn't....liar.

@quackquack said
There is no such thing as providing for free of charge. It would be far more accurate for you to say that you wish other tax payers would pay for him. Furthermore, Medicaid covers the medical expenses of the poor... so you are asking for tax payers to pay for someone who could afford his medicine but wished to use it elsewhere.

And of course no mention is to be made of the republicans who accept bribes by big pharma so they can charge up the ass for meds and procedures. Oh, BTW, all those folks who can supposedly afford it? Cancer patients run through ALL their savings on average once the expensive therapy starts.
Yeah, DAMN those bastard democrats for wanting to make it better for Americans.

Let them eat CORK. BTW, you should know the reason Trump and the senate passed the big tax cut a couple years ago had NOTHING to do with helping ordinary people OR companies.

They knew well in advance the only way to be able to screw over the working class Americans was to make a tax cut so severe it would, and I emphasize, they KNEW way in advance, that it would drive up the national debt, where it used to be about 19 tril now closing in on 22 TRILLION and if nothing is done, like oh, maybe, getting a real person as POTUS and a real senate to fix things, the debt will be over 30 Trillion in another ten years. The government is financing itself on foreign loans and you probably know who that is, can you speak Mandarin?
THAT was the REAL reason for the tax cuts. It is now the mantra, OH, we HAVE to cut spending now, look at the national debt.
That was the whole POINT of the tax cut, so they could now work out the details of just how to screw with SS, medicare, medicaid and so forth.
Choke on your pyrrhic victory. And of course you won't believe a word of what I just wrote, it goes with your brainwashing, NOBODY could be THAT cynical could they?

You will personally benefit from it though, you will have to work till you are 80 before you can collect SS which BTW, is your own fukking money. The only reason SS is in trouble is because the SS coffers have been raped repeatedly by government officials stealing from their funds to pay for all the BS programs they wanted to make. THAT is an absolute fact jack.

For the usual dumbasses who can't be bothered to read something, the person unfortunate enough to get sick and die in the US i mentioned had about 40k $ a year income. He was poor enough to not be able to afford the correct amount of insulin and "rich" enough to not qualify for any of the measures set in place by Obamacare to help with the cost of medicine, measures that were so gleefuly chopped up by heartless bastards on the republican side while enough incompetent bastards on the democrat side stood and watched. He was old enough to be kicked off his parents insurance and at 26 he didn't have a job that gave medical insurance.


For the rest of you who aren't retards, the details are inside that sanders tweet i linked.

@stellspalfie said
"Medicaid covers the medical expenses of the poor"


No, it doesn't....liar.

Maybe he is just dumb. Maybe he actually thinks that between poor and wealth there is a single line. A single line majestically and brilliantly put in place by the great republican minds that says if you have one dollar more than the sum they came up with, you aren't poor and you should be able to afford housing, healthcare, education.

Maybe he might sometime soon be tempted to actually click the tweet i linked and see the dead guy took a picture on a sunny beach and, like a heartless bastard, conclude that the guy was obviously filthy rich since he could afford (gasp!) a vacation. Maybe, like a heartless dumb bastard, he might conclude the guy deserved to die.

Because in america, you're either rich or you're lazy.