Originally posted by sonhouseHow many more pins to fall?
http://phys.org/news/2012-12-china-patent.html
It's clear the US is following the path of the Roman empire it seems.
Now China is filing more patents than the US, formerly #1 in the world in that area.
One pin down. How many more to go?
None, the US is finished as a world power. England lost it's predominance over the world 100 years ago, now America is doing the same. It appears that China will fill the gap.
I hope the planet is happy with the outcome.
Originally posted by sonhouse🙄
http://phys.org/news/2012-12-china-patent.html
It's clear the US is following the path of the Roman empire it seems.
Now China is filing more patents than the US, formerly #1 in the world in that area.
One pin down. How many more to go?
Your evidence that it's "clear the US is following the path of the Roman empire" is that a country with 5 times the US population finally passed us in raw number patent applications?
Get a grip, dude.
Originally posted by sonhouseDidn't know the US ever had an empire 🙄
http://phys.org/news/2012-12-china-patent.html
It's clear the US is following the path of the Roman empire it seems.
Now China is filing more patents than the US, formerly #1 in the world in that area.
One pin down. How many more to go?
Originally posted by sh76Well the thing is, most of those patents were given to Chinese kids who got their education at places like MIT, Cal Tech, Lehigh University, Princeton, Harvard, get the picture? Get the Phd here, take it home and work for their government.
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Your evidence that it's "clear the US is following the path of the Roman empire" is that a country with 5 times the US population finally passed us in raw number patent applications?
Get a grip, dude.
I call that adding insult to injury.
And it doesn't matter if the country is Canada with 1/10th the population, a patent is a patent and we are now in second place. The patents are ideas, if you hadn't noticed, and if you fall behind in the idea department.....
Originally posted by sonhouseThe internationalism of education that you rightly point out might mean that the idea that the nation is the fundamental unit of identity on the world stage is also under threat. This is much more a big deal than one nation succeeding another in dominance.
Well the thing is, most of those patents were given to Chinese kids who got their education at places like MIT, Cal Tech, Lehigh University, Princeton, Harvard, get the picture? Get the Phd here, take it home and work for their government.
I call that adding insult to injury.
And it doesn't matter if the country is Canada with 1/10th the population, ...[text shortened]... e patents are ideas, if you hadn't noticed, and if you fall behind in the idea department.....
The nation concept is not historically necessary. Other ways of aggregating and organizing power are possible. There are other examples of how the role of the nation is eroding, such as the rise of NGOs and of extra-national terrorist groups.
A related development is the diminished value of territorial barriers, mainly separation and isolation, as a way to defend against attack. The nation has historically depended on having a defined territory and subject population. The US benefited from not sharing borders with enemies and we saw in WWII the benefit of being out of range of bombers. The current ability to project destructive force across great distances, and more recently, electronically, means that the dependence of nations on their territory is less secure. This would make people want to turn to another way to organize for mutual protection.
Originally posted by JS357Nice analysis. What would that new way be then? Do you see the Eurozone as a single nation? It seems that falls into the cracks of the defense. Do you see then an amalgamation of nation-states, like North and South America as one state?
The internationalism of education that you rightly point out might mean that the idea that the nation is the fundamental unit of identity on the world stage is also under threat. This is much more a big deal than one nation succeeding another in dominance.
The nation concept is not historically necessary. Other ways of aggregating and organizing power are p ...[text shortened]... ss secure. This would make people want to turn to another way to organize for mutual protection.
Originally posted by KilgoreTrout15The British Empire used the USA to continue it's empire and it will use China to do the same. They are just military surrogates of the same empire. The British Empire still exists in reality. I know many of you find that hard to believe but it makes perfect sense if you look closely.
How many more pins to fall?
None, the US is finished as a world power. England lost it's predominance over the world 100 years ago, now America is doing the same. It appears that China will fill the gap.
I hope the planet is happy with the outcome.
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Originally posted by sonhouseThat US universities lead the world is a good thing, not "insult" or "injury." First, many of them will stay and work here. Second, those that study here will give our students the benefit of a more diversified education and contribute their ideas to our universities. Finally, those that do go home will bring some American culture and American ideas home with them, which increases American cultural, academic and political influence abroad.
Well the thing is, most of those patents were given to Chinese kids who got their education at places like MIT, Cal Tech, Lehigh University, Princeton, Harvard, get the picture? Get the Phd here, take it home and work for their government.
I call that adding insult to injury.