Defense of Marriage Act

Originally posted by vivify
According to historical fact, marriages started out as secular. I have no religion.

Your religious beliefs are so strong that you believe that they are fact. Impossible to deal with such people.

Originally posted by Eladar
Your religious beliefs are so strong that you believe that they are fact. Impossible to deal with such people.

I don't remember if you're religious or not. Are you? Because that would explain a lot about you.

Originally posted by vivify
I don't remember if you're religious or not. Are you? Because that would explain a lot about you.

Your world view is your religion. Everyone must accept certain axioms and those axioms determine your religious beliefs. Everyone is religious. Some people just don't like to admit it.

Originally posted by vivify
I don't remember if you're religious or not. Are you? Because that would explain a lot about you.

Have you seen any of 'The Children of the Corn' movies. 😕

Originally posted by Eladar
Your world view is your religion. Everyone must accept certain axioms and those axioms determine your religious beliefs. Everyone is religious. Some people just don't like to admit it.

Religion involves accepting a predetermined set of unverifiable beliefs, as true. I don't have this, and thus, have no religion.

Originally posted by vivify
Religion involves accepting a predetermined set of unverifiable beliefs, as true. I don't have this, and thus, have no religion.

LOL!

Originally posted by moon1969
On a personal level as an observer of the gay "issue" generally, I have never seen American society move and change so fast on a social/class issue. Just a short 20-years ago, the country was so much more anti-gay. The fast evolution away from that is refreshing. Much of the credit apparently is due to young people.

Well yes young people are more tolerant and perhaps more likely to participate, but does the credit truly belong to them? We must not forget the liberal minded schools, religious leaders in some churches, and the success of the older gay community in terms of recruiting. Are the young people to credit or are they a product of their environment? For tolerance, these things may be a factor. Homosexuality is not new and it is biological in nature. Not good not bad. It is what it is. If the government does rule favorably for gay marriage then there will probalby be some sort of rule imposed on it. One man to one man and one woman to one woman. Would be easier if it was one person to one person. It may be hard to reword marriage as one person to one person without opposition. Why not just make up a new word for marriage that would apply to gays and separate the two?
Both groups would have identical rights and everyone can move on. For those that think they have the right to have marriage worded as one man to one woman they would be satisfied. For the gay community, they would (or should) be satified.