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Democracy Gone Bad for the Neo-Cons

Democracy Gone Bad for the Neo-Cons

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no1marauder
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Lately it seems like every election that gets held in the world outside of the US and the UK is going bad for the super-rich, globalization crowd.

In Peru, a leftist who wants to annul the recent free trade agreement with the US as rather easily won the first spot in a Presidential run-off. The conservative, free trade darling, who was expected to finish first a month ago, is third. While the Western press reports continue to act like the second runoff spot is "too close" to call, the second left of center candidate has a 120,000 vote lead over the conservative with 88.3% of the vote counted. In a country the size of Peru, that's all she wrote.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/americas/04/13/peru.elections.ap/index.html

It also seems that the Bush friendly Italian government has went from solid majority to defeat. I could add recent elections in the Arab world and South America to the mix; they have generally elected the group most opposed to the free trade, "globalization at the point of a gun" policy favored by the Bush Administration and neocons like Barnet. Seems like the average person of the world isn't interested in helping the super-rich get richer. Ungrateful bastards!

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While I agree it's humorous that world elections aren't going the way the Bush Administration would have expected (given all the freedom we spread and all), I'm thinking your personal evaluation is a bit heavy-handed.

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Originally posted by no1marauder
Lately it seems like every election that gets held in the world outside of the US and the UK is going bad for the super-rich, globalization crowd.

In Peru, a leftist who wants to annul the recent free trade agreement with the US as rather easily won the first spot in a Presidential run-off. The conservative, free trade darling, who was expected n of the world isn't interested in helping the super-rich get richer. Ungrateful bastards!
So the Peruvians choices will be :
• Alan Garcia -who's 1985-1990 government (his party also had a majority in Congress) was marked by, a bloody insurgency by extreme-left guerrillas, the Lurigancho prison massacre, and hyperinflation from 87.7% in 1985 to 7,649% in 1990.
• Ollanta Humala -who pledges to redistribute Peru's wealth, heavy state intervention in Peru's free-market economy, higher taxes on foreign mining companies and legalization of coca cultivation. The pardoned Leader of a 2000 military uprising against then President Alberto Fujimori.

That wacky right-wingnut Flores woman has been eliminated.
Hallelujah!

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Originally posted by xs
So the Peruvians choices will be :
• Alan Garcia -who's 1985-1990 government (his party also had a majority in Congress) was marked by, a bloody insurgency by extreme-left guerrillas, the Lurigancho prison massacre, and hyperinflation from 87.7% in 1985 to 7,649% in 1990.
• Ollanta Humala -who pledges to redistribute Peru's wealth, heavy state intervention in ...[text shortened]... Alberto Fujimori.

That wacky right-wingnut Flores woman has been eliminated.
Hallelujah!
How dare people in other countries elect individuals who don't meet with the approval of Big Country plutocrats! The nerve!

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Originally posted by sasquatch672
. Such a middle-class lifestyle makes the vast majority of people who are living in it think better of strapping on suicide vests and blowing themselves up in a market.
Really?

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2087-1552099,00.html

If anything, I think it may positively encourage it.

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Originally posted by sasquatch672
Okay. Listen. You yourself claim to be well-versed in the founding principles of our country. The one that sets us apart, more than any other, from any other country is this: rights are not bestowed on man by his government, but are inherent and God-given. Right? And then, government exists only for the protection of those rights and nothing more. been amply demonstrated.

That's all for now. Time for beer. I'll be on tomorrow.
Yes, that is the Neo-Con manifesto.

Outside of "God-given" (maybe, maybe not), your synopsis of my basic political belief system is correct. Therefore, 1 and 2 follow. I don't have time for a detailed analysis of the other points (beer is calling me as well), but I will say that I reject most of them totally or at least in part, some as factual assertions, some on philosophy. If you wish, I'll go into it further tomorrow.

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Originally posted by no1marauder
Lately it seems like every election that gets held in the world outside of the US and the UK is going bad for the super-rich, globalization crowd.
....
it is sometimes a joke around australia that americans are so ignorant of the world outside their borders that they think australia is just another state of the us.

are you ignorant of australia's (theoretically) independent status?

anyway - our government is well and truly right wing and, unfortunately, looks to stay that way for some time.

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Originally posted by no1marauder
How dare people in other countries elect individuals who don't meet with the approval of Big Country plutocrats! The nerve!
Why not, N1M, we often elect individuals in this country who don't even meet with our approval.

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Originally posted by no1marauder
How dare people in other countries elect individuals who don't meet with the approval of Big Country plutocrats! The nerve!
Its just history repeating itself. How does a country choose its own government? It has to win a revolt or a revolution on their own without the help of the "Big Countries." The US is well known for going ironically against their beliefs in freedom and democracy when assisting other countries in setting up their government. Cuba, Puerto Rico, and the Phillipines, just to name a few, after the Spanish-American War were all denied full independence. Are we seeing imperialism all over again now?

EDIT - I didn't totally go with what you were talking about, sort of the opposite, but the point is that no one wants to be controlled or told what to do by the big countries anymore, but the big countries do it with every oppurtunity. and competition for the small countries is one of the factors that led to the first world war

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