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Is there a more inclusive way to govern?

In so called "democratic" elections it seems that nearly always half of the population is never happy with whoever is elected. It just seems like one huge propoganda merry-go-round of falsehood, lies & deceit whereby political parties vie to dupe the populace.

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"Under democracy one party always devotes its chief energies
to trying to prove that the other party is unfit to rule --
and both commonly succeed, and are right."
-- H. L. Mencken
(1880-1956) American Journalist, Editor, Essayist, Linguist, Lexicographer, and Critic

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Do away with political parties and have the elected representatives actually represent the wishes of the people that elect them.

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Originally posted by matua
Is there a more inclusive way to govern?

In so called "democratic" elections it seems that nearly always half of the population is never happy with whoever is elected. It just seems like one huge propoganda merry-go-round of falsehood, lies & deceit whereby political parties vie to dupe the populace.
That is a pretty good summing up of the present situation. In fact only about a third of the total population actually voted for Blair.

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Originally posted by Nargaguna
That is a pretty good summing up of the present situation. In fact only about a third of the total population actually voted for Blair.
Would you prefer proportional representation in the UK?

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Originally posted by Wheely
Would you prefer proportional representation in the UK?
Well, I'm beginning to think it could hardly lead to a worse situation than we have at present.

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Originally posted by Nargaguna
Well, I'm beginning to think it could hardly lead to a worse situation than we have at present.
Possibly. Personally I'm undecided. I think for some countries it makes sense but I'm not sure it it suits the British psyche.

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Originally posted by Wheely
Would you prefer proportional representation in the UK?
Tories are always in favour of PR when they are in opposition, and opposed when they are in power.

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Originally posted by Wheely
Would you prefer proportional representation in the UK?
I think it gives a fairer result when there are more than 2 choices.

I would welcome it, but I can't see Labour or Conservative bringing it in.
Even the Lib Dems have dropped it.

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Originally posted by Redmike
Tories are always in favour of PR when they are in opposition, and opposed when they are in power.
Like every other Party. The LibDems permanently so.

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Originally posted by aging blitzer
I think it gives a fairer result when there are more than 2 choices.

I would welcome it, but I can't see Labour or Conservative bringing it in.
Even the Lib Dems have dropped it.
I think it depends on the system.
We have a form of PR for the Scottish parliament already, and we're adopting a different system for the local council elections from 2007.

The parliamentary system was basically designed to prevent the SNP ever getting a majority, but it does mean a much wider range if parties - greens, socialists, pensioners, and a handful of independants. There were about 12 parties actually standng candidates.

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I like the PR concept.

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Originally posted by matua
Is there a more inclusive way to govern?

In so called "democratic" elections it seems that nearly always half of the population is never happy with whoever is elected. It just seems like one huge propoganda merry-go-round of falsehood, lies & deceit whereby political parties vie to dupe the populace.
There's a proposed system called statistical assemblies which works much the same way as a jury system does. We all get turns at being in parliament and call in expert witnesses on matters such as economics, society, etc. For example, you'd only need a "jury" of around 550 people to run America more effectively than it is now. Search for statistical assemblies on the net.

(Actually, you'd only need one person to run America more effectively than it is now).

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statistical_Assembly

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