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    Democrats - I know you mean well, but you folks are kind of all over the map with your messaging. I know you don't like Trump's policies, but aside from complaining about everything Trump, I don't hear many solutions from the left wing regarding the mess on our southern border, paying down the national debt, foreign policy, fixing our infrastructure etc. The green new deal is a start, but it's not enough. You folks have a golden opportunity to make some major gains in 2020, but can't just be anti Trump, you have to have a solid message to sell to the voters, and right now you don't have one.
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    Can we please get rid of this moron?

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    (Trump on MOUs).
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    @mchill said
    Democrats - I know you mean well, but you folks are kind of all over the map with your messaging. I know you don't like Trump's policies, but aside from complaining about everything Trump, I don't hear many solutions from the left wing regarding the mess on our southern border, paying down the national debt, foreign policy, fixing our infrastructure etc. The green new deal is ...[text shortened]... nti Trump, you have to have a solid message to sell to the voters, and right now you don't have one.
    do you ever read stuff? because you always come across as not having much of a clue


    Bernie Sanders is all over the place? How about Warren?

    "the mess on our southern border,"
    there is no "mess" on the southern border, it's just something Trump has made up.

    "paying down the national debt"
    that is not a priority

    "foreign policy, fixing our infrastructure"
    all things Sanders and Warren has been clear on

    "right now you don't have one."
    you have more than a year to educate yourself
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    @lundos said
    @mchill

    Can we please get rid of this moron?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0ROLHtpxL0

    (Trump on MOUs).
    Not until you get your own act together, you can't.
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    @mchill said
    Democrats - I know you mean well, but you folks are kind of all over the map with your messaging. I know you don't like Trump's policies, but aside from complaining about everything Trump, I don't hear many solutions from the left wing regarding the mess on our southern border, paying down the national debt, foreign policy, fixing our infrastructure etc. The green new deal is ...[text shortened]... nti Trump, you have to have a solid message to sell to the voters, and right now you don't have one.
    What do you think "the mess on our southern border" is? And how can the Democrats have "not many solutions" on the debt when the Obama administration was on track to have a balanced budget by 2020?
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    @kazetnagorra said
    What do you think "the mess on our southern border" is? And how can the Democrats have "not many solutions" on the debt when the Obama administration was on track to have a balanced budget by 2020?
    Ha. Your savior O increased the National Debt by more than all other presidents combined. THEN he told your ilk to see what that did for his magical ‘budget’ , and you fell for it hook line and sinker
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    @lundos said
    @mchill

    Can we please get rid of this moron?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0ROLHtpxL0

    (Trump on MOUs).
    I agree.mcHill said the Green Deal (cost 92 million....you snowflakes really following this child? She reminds me of Hitler)....mcHill said the Green Deal is a startšŸ¤ !!! Haha. Start to hell. Haha
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    @mchill said
    Democrats - I know you mean well, but you folks are kind of all over the map with your messaging. I know you don't like Trump's policies, but aside from complaining about everything Trump, I don't hear many solutions from the left wing regarding the mess on our southern border, paying down the national debt, foreign policy, fixing our infrastructure etc. The green new deal is ...[text shortened]... nti Trump, you have to have a solid message to sell to the voters, and right now you don't have one.
    I disagree. Universal healthcare for all as the rest of the world has; is an across the board agreed upon Democratic message. Healthcare costs are destroying our country. Great message!
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    @averagejoe1 said
    Ha. Your savior O increased the National Debt by more than all other presidents combined. THEN he told your ilk to see what that did for his magical ‘budget’ , and you fell for it hook line and sinker
    Ha. Your savior O increased the National Debt by more than all other presidents combined.
    LIAR!
    If you're going by percentage wise you are way off. If you're going by dollar wise; Trump, Reagan, Bush 1, and Bush 2, far exceed Obama's debt incurred. Try again liar; and let's not forget that the debt Obama incurred was getting us out of the recession that Republican Bush 2 put us in; and the two wars he inherited.

    "The Top Five Contributors by Percent
    Franklin D. Roosevelt: Percentage-wise, President Roosevelt increased the debt by the largest amount. Although he only added $236 billion, this was a 1,048 percent increase from the $23 billion debt level left by President Herbert Hoover.

    Of course, the Great Depression took an enormous bite out of revenues. The New Deal cost billions. But FDR's major contribution to the debt was World War II spending. He added $209 billion to the debt between 1942 and 1945."

    "Woodrow Wilson: President Wilson was the second-largest contributor to the debt, percentage-wise. He added $21 billion, which was a 727 percent increase over the $2.9 billion debt of his predecessor. Wilson had to pay for World War I. During his presidency, the Second Liberty Bond Act gave Congress the right to adopt the national debt ceiling."

    "Ronald Reagan: President Reagan increased the debt by 186 percent. Reaganomics added $1.86 trillion. Reagan's brand of supply-side economics didn't grow the economy enough to offset the lost revenue from its tax cuts. That was partly because Reagan increased the defense budget by 35 percent."

    "George W. Bush: President Bush added $5.849 trillion, the second-greatest dollar amount. It was the fourth-largest percentage increase. Bush increased the debt by 101 percent from where it started at $5.8 trillion on September 30, 2001. That's the end of FY 2001, which was President Clinton's last budget.

    Bush launched the War on Terror in response to the 9/11 attacks. The War on Terror included two wars. The War in Afghanistan cost $1.1 trillion and the Iraq War cost $1 trillion. They increased military spending to record levels of $600 billion to $800 billion a year.

    President Bush also responded to the 2001 recession by passing the Economic Growth and Tax Relief Reconciliation Act and the Jobs and Growth Tax Relief Reconciliation Act. He approved a $700 billion bailout package for banks to combat the 2008 global financial crisis. Both Presidents Bush and Obama had to contend with higher mandatory spending for Social Security and Medicare."

    "Barack Obama: Under President Obama, the national debt grew the most dollar-wise. He added $8.588 trillion. This 74 percent increase was the fifth-largest. Obama's budgets included the economic stimulus package. It added $831 billion by cutting taxes, extending unemployment benefits, and funding public works projects.

    The Obama tax cuts added $858 billion to the debt in two years. Obama's budget increased defense spending to between $700 billion and $800 billion a year. Federal income was down, thanks to lower tax receipts from the 2008 financial crisis. He also sponsored the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act. It was designed to reduce the debt by $143 billion over 10 years. But these savings didn't show up until the later years."
    https://www.thebalance.com/us-debt-by-president-by-dollar-and-percent-3306296
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    U.S. Debt Increase by Fiscal Year Since 1960
    The U.S. Treasury Department has historical tables that report the annual U.S. debt for each fiscal year since 1790. This data has been compiled for each president as detailed below.

    Donald Trump: As projected in the FY 2019 budget, Trump plans to add $4.775 trillion, a 29 percent increase from the $20.245 trillion debt at the end of Obama's last budget for FY 2017.

    FY 2021 - $1.119 trillion.
    FY 2020 - $1.198 trillion.
    FY 2019 - $1.225 trillion.
    FY 2018 - $1.233 trillion.
    Barack Obama: Added $8.588 trillion, a 74 percent increase from the $11.657 trillion debt at the end of Bush’s last budget, FY 2009.

    FY 2017 - $672 billion.
    FY 2016 - $1.423 trillion.
    FY 2015 - $327 billion.
    FY 2014 - $1.086 trillion.
    FY 2013 - $672 billion.
    FY 2012 - $1.276 trillion.
    FY 2011 - $1.229 trillion.
    FY 2010 - $1.652 trillion.
    FY 2009 - $253 billion. Congress passed the Economic Stimulus Act, which spent $253 billion in FY 2009. This rare occurrence should be added to President Obama's contribution to the debt.
    George W. Bush: Added $5.849 trillion, a 101 percent increase from the $5.8 trillion debt at the end of Clinton's last budget, FY 2001.

    FY 2009 - $1.632 trillion. This was Bush's deficit without the impact of the Economic Stimulus Act.
    FY 2008 - $1.017 trillion.
    FY 2007 - $501 billion.
    FY 2006 - $574 billion.
    FY 2005 - $554 billion.
    FY 2004 - $596 billion.
    FY 2003 - $555 billion.
    FY 2002 - $421 billion.
    Bill Clinton: Added $1.396 trillion, a 32 percent increase from the $4.4 trillion debt at the end of George H.W. Bush's last budget, FY 1993.

    FY 2001 - $133 billion.
    FY 2000 - $18 billion.
    FY 1999 - $130 billion.
    FY 1998 - $113 billion.
    FY 1997 - $188 billion.
    FY 1996 - $251 billion.
    FY 1995 - $281 billion.
    FY 1994 - $281 billion.
    George H.W. Bush: Added $1.554 trillion, a 54 percent increase from the $2.857 trillion debt at the end of Reagan's last budget, FY 1989.

    FY 1993 - $347 billion.
    FY 1992 - $399 billion.
    FY 1991 - $432 billion.
    FY 1990 - $376 billion.
    Ronald Reagan: Added $1.86 trillion, a 186 percent increase from the $998 billion debt at the end of Carter's last budget, FY 1981.

    FY 1989 - $255 billion.
    FY 1988 - $252 billion.
    FY 1987 - $225 billion.
    FY 1986 - $297 billion.
    FY 1985 - $256 billion.
    FY 1984 - $195 billion.
    FY 1983 - $235 billion.
    FY 1982 - $144 billion.
    Jimmy Carter: Added $299 billion, a 43 percent increase from the $699 billion debt at the end of Ford's last budget, FY 1977.

    FY 1981 - $90 billion.
    FY 1980 - $81 billion.
    FY 1979 - $55 billion.
    FY 1978 - $73 billion.
    Gerald Ford: Added $224 billion, a 47 percent increase from the $475 billion debt at the end of Nixon's last budget, FY 1974.

    FY 1977 - $78 billion.
    FY 1976 - $87 billion.
    FY 1975 - $58 billion.
    Richard Nixon: Added $121 billion, a 34 percent increase from the $354 billion debt at the end of President Johnson's last budget, FY 1969.

    FY 1974 - $17 billion.
    FY 1973 - $31 billion.
    FY 1972 - $29 billion.
    FY 1971 - $27 billion.
    FY 1970 - $17 billion.
    Lyndon B. Johnson: Added $42 billion, a 13 percent increase from the $312 billion debt at the end of President Kennedy's last budget, FY 1964.

    FY 1969 - $6 billion.
    FY 1968 - $21 billion.
    FY 1967 - $6 billion.
    FY 1966 - $3 billion.
    FY 1965 - $6 billion.
    John F. Kennedy: Added $23 billion, an 8 percent increase from the $289 billion debt at the end of Eisenhower's last budget, FY 1961.

    FY 1964 - $6 billion.
    FY 1963 - $7 billion.
    FY 1962 - $10 billion.
    Dwight Eisenhower: Added $23 billion, a 9 percent increase from the $266 billion debt at the end of Truman's last budget, FY 1953.

    FY 1961 - $3 billion.
    FY 1960 - $2 billion.
    FY 1959 - $8 billion.
    FY 1958 - $6 billion.
    FY 1957 - $2 billion surplus.
    FY 1956 - $2 billion surplus.
    FY 1955 - $3 billion.
    FY 1954 - $5 billion.
    Harry Truman: Added $7 billion, a 3 percent increase from the $259 billion debt at the end of President Roosevelt’s last budget, FY 1945.

    FY 1953 - $7 billion.
    FY 1952 - $4 billion.
    FY 1951 - $2 billion surplus.
    FY 1950 - $5 billion.
    FY 1949 - slight surplus.
    FY 1948 - $6 billion surplus.
    FY 1947 - $11 billion surplus.
    FY 1946 - $11 billion.
    Franklin D. Roosevelt: Added $236 billion, a 1,048 percent increase from the $23 billion debt at the end of Hoover's last budget, FY 1933.

    FY 1945 - $58 billion.
    FY 1944 - $64 billion.
    FY 1943 - $64 billion.
    FY 1942 - $23 billion.
    FY 1941 - $6 billion.
    FY 1940 - $3 billion.
    FY 1939 - $3 billion.
    FY 1938 - $1 billion.
    FY 1937 - $3 billion.
    FY 1936 - $5 billion.
    FY 1935 - $2 billion.
    FY 1934 - $5 billion.
    Herbert Hoover: Added $6 billion, a 33 percent increase from the $17 billion debt at the end of Coolidge's last budget, FY 1929.

    FY 1933 - $3 billion.
    FY 1932 - $3 billion.
    FY 1931 - $1 billion.
    FY 1930 - $1 billion surplus.
    Calvin Coolidge: Subtracted $5 billion from the debt, a 26 percent decrease from the $21 billion debt at the end of Harding's last budget, FY 1923.

    FY 1929 - $1 billion surplus.
    FY 1928 - $1 billion surplus.
    FY 1927 - $1 billion surplus.
    FY 1926 - $1 billion surplus.
    FY 1925 - $1 billion surplus.
    FY 1924 - $1 billion surplus.
    Warren G. Harding: Subtracted $2 billion from the debt, a 7 percent decrease from the $24 billion debt at the end of Wilson's last budget, FY 1921.

    FY 1923 - $1 billion surplus.
    FY 1922 - $1 billion surplus.
    Woodrow Wilson: Added $21 billion to the debt, a 727 percent increase from the $2.9 billion debt at the end of Taft's last budget, FY 1913.

    FY 1921 - $2 billion surplus.
    FY 1920 - $1 billion surplus.
    FY 1919 - $13 billion.
    FY 1918 - $9 billion.
    FY 1917 - $2 billion.
    FY 1916 - $1 billion.
    FY 1915 - $0 billion with a slight surplus.
    FY 1914 - $0 billion.
    FY 1789 - FY 1913: $2.9 billion debt created.

    Resources: Debt from 1929 to 2017: U.S. Treasury Historical Tables and U.S. Treasury, Debt to the Penny. Debt from 2018 to 2021: FY 2019 budget, Analytical Perspectives, Table 4-2. Federal Government Financing and Debt.
    https://www.thebalance.com/us-debt-by-president-by-dollar-and-percent-3306296
    Pull your lying panties out of the crack of your butt boy!
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    @kingdavid403 said
    Ha. Your savior O increased the National Debt by more than all other presidents combined.
    LIAR!
    If you're going by percentage wise you are way off. If you're going by dollar wise; Trump, Reagan, Bush 1, and Bush 2, far exceed Obama's debt incurred. Try again liar; and let's not forget that the debt Obama incurred was getting us out of the recession that Repu ...[text shortened]... uce the debt by $143 billion over 10 years. But these savings didn't show up until the later years."
    Go Wild, King. And that’s all I got to say. Inherited wars? Look at Obama’s! Without congressional assent.
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    @kingdavid403 said
    Ha. Your savior O increased the National Debt by more than all other presidents combined.
    LIAR!
    If you're going by percentage wise you are way off. If you're going by dollar wise; Trump, Reagan, Bush 1, and Bush 2, far exceed Obama's debt incurred. Try again liar; and let's not forget that the debt Obama incurred was getting us out of the recession that Repu ...[text shortened]... til the later years."
    https://www.thebalance.com/us-debt-by-president-by-dollar-and-percent-3306296
    Missed the part about The affordable care act. My eyes are glazed over. Just for the record, that Act does not exist anymore
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    @kingdavid403 said
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    U.S. Debt Increase by Fiscal Year Since 1960
    The U.S. Treasury Department has historical tables that report the annual U.S. debt for each fiscal year since 1790. This data has been compiled for each president as detailed below.

    Donald Trump: As projected in the FY 2019 budget, Trump plans to add $4.775 trillion, a 29 percent increase from the $20.245 t ...[text shortened]... ent-by-dollar-and-percent-3306296
    Pull your lying panties out of the crack of your butt boy!
    King king.......get a grip. Tell me about your grandchildren..............
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    @averagejoe1 said
    King king.......get a grip. Tell me about your grandchildren..............
    Let me tell you people Who Trump is. Do you remember little rocket man, and ‘we will annihilate you’? “ Well since then he has met with Kim Jong-un and they are tight. Will you just refuse to agree and realize that Trump is the greatest negotiator, he knows exactly what he is doing. When he said fire and fury, do you think those are American phrases? No he was speaking in the Korean language and scared them . Hey, y’all stick with Trump....and me, of course.
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    @averagejoe1 said
    Let me tell you people Who Trump is. Do you remember little rocket man, and ‘we will annihilate you’? “ Well since then he has met with Kim Jong-un and they are tight. Will you just refuse to agree and realize that Trump is the greatest negotiator, he knows exactly what he is doing. When he said fire and fury, do you think those are American phrases? No he was speaking in the Korean language and scared them . Hey, y’all stick with Trump....and me, of course.
    "Fire and Fury" is a phrase Truman made up to imply nuclear devastation. It is absolutely an American phrase you fool.
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