@kevcvs57 saidI'll bet you are right. Why do you think I brought it up?
“ What are Desantis' poll numbers? I'll bet they are better than both Biden and Trump.”
They won’t be by 2024 he’ll be every bit the bogey man of the centre and independents that Trump is.
It’s a catch 22 for the republicans, no one who comes across as reasonable can hope to get past the MAGA republicans so they have to compete with each other to be more ultra right and anti everything other than white Christian extremism than the other primary candidates.
Biden cannot win if Desantis wins the republican nomination.
Does that mean you are hoping for Trump to win the republican nomination?
@metal-brain saidRead my post again Ivan and update your translator app.
I'll bet you are right. Why do you think I brought it up?
Biden cannot win if Desantis wins the republican nomination.
Does that mean you are hoping for Trump to win the republican nomination?
DeSantis will have to be as extreme as Trump in order to win the primary, whoever wins the Republican primary will by definition be too extreme for moderates and independents.
The Republican Party has had to abandon the middle ground in order to appease the MAGA/ Tea Party base.
@kevcvs57 said"DeSantis will have to be as extreme as Trump in order to win the primary"
Read my post again Ivan and update your translator app.
DeSantis will have to be as extreme as Trump in order to win the primary, whoever wins the Republican primary will by definition be too extreme for moderates and independents.
The Republican Party has had to abandon the middle ground in order to appease the MAGA/ Tea Party base.
LOL! That is ridiculous!
Did you make that up yourself?
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-Removed-Then you are not hoping Biden will win. He cannot win against DeSantis.
You need Trump to win the republican nomination. Especially since Biden may not live through his second term and we would have Kamala. Do you have any idea how unpopular she is? She slept her way into politics.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/armstrong-kamalas-affair-sleeping-her-way-top
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-Removed-Despite an increasing woke fanaticism among leftists in terms of ideology and Biden doing everything in his power to push their agenda, a majority of Democrat voters 52% still do not want Biden to run for office again next year.
It appears that the embarrassment is becoming too much for you. Your own party does not want Biden.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/watch-democrats-have-no-interest-voting-joe-biden-again-2024
@metal-brain saidYour own party?
Despite an increasing woke fanaticism among leftists in terms of ideology and Biden doing everything in his power to push their agenda, a majority of Democrat voters 52% still do not want Biden to run for office again next year.
It appears that the embarrassment is becoming too much for you. Your own party does not want Biden.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/watch-democrats-have-no-interest-voting-joe-biden-again-2024
Do you think Divegeester is American?
Focus, for one second:
The democrats are roughly the same as right-wing European political parties.
The republicans are roughly the same as European extreme right parties.
People like trump and Desantis are madhatter extremists, in the eyes of Europeans.
Your simplistic reasoning doesn’t add up in Europe.
Take Divegeester. Rabid pro-Brexit.
Ask him about privitasation (of say the NHS) or Nigel Farage (England’s version of trump). Go on.
You’re going to get a layered answer and not some idiotic simplistic “our side vs their side, because all of their side is bad” answer.
Politics, vaccinations, debates do not centre around America. There’s a whole world out there. And in 99% of the world, very few people would vote for either a Desantis or a trump.
@shavixmir saidLet's examine Europe's election rules for a change.
Your own party?
Do you think Divegeester is American?
Focus, for one second:
The democrats are roughly the same as right-wing European political parties.
The republicans are roughly the same as European extreme right parties.
People like trump and Desantis are madhatter extremists, in the eyes of Europeans.
Your simplistic reasoning doesn’t add up in Europe.
...[text shortened]... rld out there. And in 99% of the world, very few people would vote for either a Desantis or a trump.
If you and divejester are right-wing Europeans why do either of you care about American politics? What kind of voting machines do you right-wing Europeans use over there? Do you even know?
Britain does not use voting machines, do they? Did they reject them for a reason? What is that reason?
Does the Netherlands use voting machines? If so, what kind(s) do they use?
@metal-brain saidI am a fukking socialist, you moron.
Let's examine Europe's election rules for a change.
If you and divejester are right-wing Europeans why do either of you care about American politics? What kind of voting machines do you right-wing Europeans use over there? Do you even know?
Britain does not use voting machines, do they? Did they reject them for a reason? What is that reason?
Does the Netherlands use voting machines? If so, what kind(s) do they use?
And Divegeester is to the right of me. But he’s to the left of many democratic party issues.
American politics is like watching a train crash in a tunnel, you can’t look away.
And all you yanks do is post about your madhatter theories on a debates forum… and HEY! People debate on a debates forum.
The Dutch don’t use voting machines.
And you need an ID to vote. But that’s not an issue in the Netherlands, because everyone over 12 must have an ID anyway.
Your voting machines have been under heavy observation and there’s nothing wrong with them. The problem is in your head.
Stop being so simplistic.
@shavixmir saidIf there’s nothing wrong with voting machines in the USA why don't the Dutch or the British use voting machines? Do they just like spending more money hand counting ballots for nothing or did they find out voting machines were deeply flawed?
I am a fukking socialist, you moron.
And Divegeester is to the right of me. But he’s to the left of many democratic party issues.
American politics is like watching a train crash in a tunnel, you can’t look away.
And all you yanks do is post about your madhatter theories on a debates forum… and HEY! People debate on a debates forum.
The Dutch don’t use voting machin ...[text shortened]... ation and there’s nothing wrong with them. The problem is in your head.
Stop being so simplistic.
@metal-brain saidHahaha imbecile
"DeSantis will have to be as extreme as Trump in order to win the primary"
LOL! That is ridiculous!
Did you make that up yourself?
@Metal-Brain
Good, if true. Zombies don't care a rats ass for helping common folks ONLY in helping big companies so they get millions in super PAC funds.
Maybe you noticed for instance the infrastructure bill, passed by dems but Trump could not get it done when he was POTUS and owned senate and house.
THAT is the difference between zombies and dems.
If you think different, show me the legislation zombies have put out to help the common folk.
Instead, they make laws that make more and more people in trouble with the law, that is their MO, criminalize anything to do with women's reproductive rights for instance, like Idaho criminalizing just going across the Idaho border to get an abortion in Washington.
THAT is exactly how zombies play.
CONTROL, absolute power, that is their goal SCREW common folk. We want power and nothing else.
Just the kind of governing you would love, ESPECIALLY if you were in charge, shudder.