Did Christianity destroy Rome?

Originally posted by AThousandYoung
I abandoned that premise on the first page.

That sounds so sad :'(

Originally posted by AThousandYoung
Rome grew to great power as polytheists, with special reverence for Jupiter and Mars. They took over Europe and North Africa. Then they adopted Christianity and it all fell apart.

Discuss.

The Goths sacked Rome, didn't they?

Originally posted by shavixmir
The Goths sacked Rome, didn't they?

Odoacer was actually an Aryan Christian, so perhaps Rome was sacked by (heretical) Christians.

Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
Odoacer was actually an Aryan Christian, so perhaps Rome was sacked by (heretical) Christians.

Bastard Christians. They're the fault of everything!

Originally posted by shavixmir
Bastard Christians. They're the fault of everything!

:'(

Originally posted by AThousandYoung
Constantine established a monarchy system, in which leaders were chosen based on who Daddy is instead of merit. This gave a clear rule for succession, but this method leads to poor leaders.

So what you are saying is that Constantine was a poor leader. How is it then that Christianity should then be blamed?

Also, I have heard it been said that Constantine did not convert until his death bed. If so, he was not a "Christian" during any of this.

Originally posted by shavixmir
Bastard Christians. They're the fault of everything!

Are they responsible for Prada, Gucchi and similar abominations?

Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
Are they responsible for Prada, Gucchi and similar abominations?

I don't know these cities, but I'm sure as hell willing to blame the Christians...

Originally posted by shavixmir
I don't know these cities, but I'm sure as hell willing to blame the Christians...

I blame the basic idea behind religion, politics, military and capitalism for
every non-natural sorrow in the world. For turning us all against each other
and for poisoning our minds with senseless paranoia.

Originally posted by stocken
I blame the basic idea behind religion, politics, military and capitalism for
every non-natural sorrow in the world. For turning us all against each other
and for poisoning our minds with senseless paranoia.

I'm interested, not just for the sake of an argument, but what exactly do you consider that 'basic idea' to be.

Originally posted by shavixmir
I don't know these cities, but I'm sure as hell willing to blame the Christians...

Have you turned muzzie?

Originally posted by shavixmir
The Goths sacked Rome, didn't they?

After Constantine...

Originally posted by whodey
So what you are saying is that Constantine was a poor leader. How is it then that Christianity should then be blamed?

Also, I have heard it been said that Constantine did not convert until his death bed. If so, he was not a "Christian" during any of this.

His mistakes were the direct result of his Christianity e.g. intolerance and putting people in power based not on merit but on religion.

Originally posted by ivanhoe
I propose two theories. One to suit the rabiate anti-Christian (more or less) leftist wing and one to suit the rabiate (more or less) rightist anti-Islam wing.

Of course the first theory claims that Christianity caused the downfall of Rome and the second claims that Islam caused the downfall of the Roman Empire when Constantinople fell in the fifteenth ce


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decline_of_the_Roman_Empire


Please continue ........

you got some readin' to do.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Gibbon

"By 1751, Gibbon's reading was already voracious and certainly pointed toward his future pursuits: Laurence Echard's Roman History (1713), William Howel(l)'s An Institution of General History (1680–85), and several of the 65 volumes of the acclaimed Universal History from the Earliest Account of Time (1747–1768).[4]
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Originally posted by AThousandYoung
Constantine established a monarchy system, in which leaders were chosen based on who Daddy is instead of merit. This gave a clear rule for succession, but this method leads to poor leaders.

nero's ascension was based on merit?