30 Nov 06
Just browsing through Wikipedia and I read that Israel pre-emptively started the Six-day war in 1967.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six-Day_War
"When Egypt expelled the United Nations Emergency Force from the Sinai Peninsula, increased its military activity near the border, and blockaded the Straits of Tiran to Israeli ships, Israel launched a pre-emptive attack on Egypt's airforce fearing an imminent attack by Egypt."
Amazing.
Palestinians have been waiting 39 years for justice. It doesn't surprise me at all that in the face of massive Israeli stone-walling that they launch a few ad hoc violent rocket attacks. Because it looks like the Israelis completely deserve it.
I'm really surprised to read this.
30 Nov 06
Originally posted by spruce112358Palestinians have been waiting 58 years for justice.
Just browsing through Wikipedia and I read that Israel pre-emptively started the Six-day war in 1967.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six-Day_War
"When Egypt expelled the United Nations Emergency Force from the Sinai Peninsula, increased its military activity near the border, and blockaded the Straits of Tiran to Israeli ships, Israel [b]launched a p ...[text shortened]... use it looks like the Israelis completely deserve it.
I'm really surprised to read this.
It just got a lot more unjust in 1967.
30 Nov 06
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Originally posted by RedmikeBut, I mean, is this wrong? Did I just believe all the propaganda about "Israel is being attacked"? I assumed that there was at least SOME basis to that statement.
Palestinians have been waiting 58 years for justice.
It just got a lot more unjust in 1967.
This article says that Israel attacked Egypt and went on to conquer lands that it still holds today.
Should the Palestinian struggle could be construed as a completely legitimate resistance movement?
30 Nov 06
Originally posted by spruce112358"Israeli leaders Yitzak Rabin and Menachem Begin later both contradicted the commonly held belief that the 1967 war was a defensive attack on the part of Israel. Both claimed publicly that Israel knew Nasser was not planning to attack. His troop movements were the pretext for a long planned Israeli move to gain more territory. Rabin was quoted in Le Monde, February 29, 1968, as saying, "I do not think Nasser wanted war. The two divisions he sent to the Sinai in May [1967] would not have been sufficient to launch an offensive against Israel. He knew it and we knew it." On August 8, 1982, Prime Minister Begin made a speech saying, "In June, 1967, we again had a choice. the Egyptian army concentrations in the Sinai did not prove that Nasser was really about to attack us. We must be honest with ourselves. We decided to attack him" (New York Times, August 21, 1982). "
But, I mean, is this wrong? Did I just believe all the propaganda about "Israel is being attacked"? I assumed that there was at least SOME basis to that statement.
http://www.nmhschool.org/tthornton/mehistorydatabase/1967_third_arab.htm
01 Dec 06
Originally posted by spruce112358Let's put Israel's actions in perspective: Let's say you are at a bar and mistakeny step on a pimp's pink suede shoes. He stares you down for a few minutes and walks away with a lingering snarl on his face. Within a few minutes, he returns minus his pink leather "London Fog" overcoat, with his sleeves rolled up and his fists clentched, and his mouth foaming with sputum while his body language alerts your 'fight-or flight' senses to possibly receiving a serious ass-whipping. Which of the following do you do?:
Just browsing through Wikipedia and I read that Israel pre-emptively started the Six-day war in 1967.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six-Day_War
"When Egypt expelled the United Nations Emergency Force from the Sinai Peninsula, increased its military activity near the border, and blockaded the Straits of Tiran to Israeli ships, Israel [b]launched a p ...[text shortened]... use it looks like the Israelis completely deserve it.
I'm really surprised to read this.
1. Relax, so when he knocks your head off of your shoulders you end up into next week or
2. You take a defensive stance and kick him in his "jewels"; while he's going down on all fours, you kick him in the head...knocking HIM into next week. Think about it.
01 Dec 06
Originally posted by spruce112358Israel returned the Sainai peninsula to Egypt as a sign of good will when they had every right to keep it...what else you got?
But, I mean, is this wrong? Did I just believe all the propaganda about "Israel is being attacked"? I assumed that there was at least SOME basis to that statement.
This article says that Israel attacked Egypt and went on to conquer lands that it still holds today.
Should the Palestinian struggle could be construed as a completely legitimate resistance movement?
01 Dec 06
Originally posted by Bosse de Nageanti-Israeli word twisting; what do you expect?
"Israeli leaders Yitzak Rabin and Menachem Begin later both contradicted the commonly held belief that the 1967 war was a defensive attack on the part of Israel. Both claimed publicly that Israel knew Nasser was not planning to attack. His troop movements were the pretext for a long planned Israeli move to gain more territory. Rabin was quoted in Le Mo ...[text shortened]... 21, 1982). "
http://www.nmhschool.org/tthornton/mehistorydatabase/1967_third_arab.htm
01 Dec 06
Originally posted by IncomparableIstrianPrime Minister Begin: "In June, 1967, we again had a choice. the Egyptian army concentrations in the Sinai did not prove that Nasser was really about to attack us. We must be honest with ourselves. We decided to attack him".
anti-Israeli word twisting; what do you expect?
Begin twisted his own words?
01 Dec 06
Originally posted by IncomparableIstrianI hope you're not that much of a moron to believe that Israel returned the Sinai because they were being nice. No country has a "right" to keep land gained by aggressive war; a bunch of guys found this out at the end of a noose at Nuremberg.
Israel returned the Sainai peninsula to Egypt as a sign of good will when they had every right to keep it...what else you got?
01 Dec 06
Originally posted by IncomparableIstrianOK, I thought about it.
Let's put Israel's actions in perspective: Let's say you are at a bar and mistakeny step on a pimp's pink suede shoes. He stares you down for a few minutes and walks away with a lingering snarl on his face. Within a few minutes, he returns minus his pink leather "London Fog" overcoat, with his sleeves rolled up and his fists clentched, and his ...[text shortened]... on all fours, you kick him in the head...knocking HIM into next week. Think about it.
You are the aggressor. You had no right to hit him. You should go to jail. Go directly to jail. Do not pass 'Go'. Do not collect $200.