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I'm geting sick and tired of people calling me a bigot because I hate conservatives. The fact is, quite simply, conservative "ideologies" are a very threat to my existance, to my right to live, to survive. While conservatives defend their mottos because they beleive it enhances their life, I, ruthlessly oppose for my very survival. My situation is definately much more dire then theirs, they are looking to enhance, I am looking for survival. So, I'm tired of people geting angry at me over this, so I'll ask the question, if a certain group of people/government/system is a threat to your life as an individual, no matter how it may better, or perceived better, to others on the whole, does that individual have a right to defend himself/herself? Just awnser the question please. . .

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perhaps before expecting people to answer this question, you should say something about how, in Canada, your survival is threatened by conservative forces? just asking for more information...

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Originally posted by dfm65
perhaps before expecting people to answer this question, you should say something about how, in Canada, your survival is threatened by conservative forces? just asking for more information...
Actually, conservatism in general around the world threatens me, what worries me is CONSERVATIVE AMERICAN INFLUENCE reaching parties, say the Conservatives of Canada (and admit it, Harper leans towards his Bush friends), and consequently taking over if the conservatives ever win. The conservatives of Canada worry me a bit, because already they use Republican like tactics, ie: try to make scandals out of other parties over trivial, non important, things.

This works wonders in the US, in Canada it has not worked so far, but many are already starting to call the Liberals of Canada criminal mafia bosses and that is simply not true and any logical person would know this, but the ignorant, well, ie: the propaganda Republican machine is SLOWLY working up here, so if Liberal Americans think they may find refuge here, they are kiding. Bush has us by his trigger finger, and he's not happy.

Now, back to the point at hand, I just wanted to explain how conservatism in general is a threat to me, there is no such things as "nice" conservatives or "bad" ones, no matter the country.

Conservatism is a threat to me, because there is NO PLACE for a schizophernic in a conservative system, think long and hard, and you know this is true. In fact, they would rather see people like me of similar ilk simply die homeless on the street, and to be forgoten, so they can just go about their busy lives of making money. Conservatives also beleive that the majority rules at all costs, that using certain individuals LIVES as sacreficial lamps within the system, to improve the LUXURY of the majority, is perfectly ok.

This is the threat, this ideology represents a serious threat to myself, and I will fight until the bitter end. Unfortunenately, it's a battle I know I will lose, there's no way, even in Canada, that "Republicanism" can be kept at bay forever, one day, one year, one of these parties will win in Canada, it is inevitable, it may come soon. I've saved up as much money as I can for such an emergency, but it doesn't take long to kill someone through starving them via a system. I suspect after just a year of conservative rule in Canada, I'm as good as dead. My life as it is right now is already in danger, living in a very hostile neighbourhood and living environment, I contribute this already mostly due to conservative interference and holding me back through the provincial government, which unlike the feds, is very conservative.

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Originally posted by mateulose
Actually, conservatism in general around the world threatens me, what worries me is CONSERVATIVE AMERICAN INFLUENCE reaching parties, say the Conservatives of Canada (and admit it, Harper leans towards his Bush friends), and consequently taking over if the conservatives ever win. The conservatives of Canada worry me a bit, because already they use Republic ...[text shortened]... holding me back through the provincial government, which unlike the feds, is very conservative.
Translation. If the Conservatives win I'll lose my welfare check and food stamps and God forbid I will have to actually go to work.

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Originally posted by mateulose
Actually, conservatism in general around the world threatens me, what worries me is CONSERVATIVE AMERICAN INFLUENCE reaching parties, say the Conservatives of Canada (and admit it, Harper leans towards his Bush friends), and consequently taking over if the conservatives ever win. The conservatives of Canada worry me a bit, because already they use Republic ...[text shortened]... holding me back through the provincial government, which unlike the feds, is very conservative.
OK, what I'm about to say I say in all seriousness. I'm not making fun of you. If you are indeed schizophrenic, many of the pharmaceutical companies have programs to offer medication free to people who cannot afford it. Even though many of these companies contributed to conservative as well as liberal candidates, this should not impede your good judgement in getting some help. Better living through chemistry will not necessarily make you a conservative. Good luck.

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Originally posted by kirksey957
OK, what I'm about to say I say in all seriousness. I'm not making fun of you. If you are indeed schizophrenic, many of the pharmaceutical companies have programs to offer medication free to people who cannot afford it. Even though many of these companies contributed to conservative as well as liberal candidates, this should not impede your good judg ...[text shortened]... help. Better living through chemistry will not necessarily make you a conservative. Good luck.
I don't need pills, what I need is a cure, a cure that can be acheived through HUMAN GENETIC MODIFICATION. But of course you conservative religious zealots are afraid of that, and made this downright illegal. You guys have made the only possible scientific cure to my disease illegal, and I will never forgive you for it, in fact, some random killing and mutual suffering may be due.

I suppose someday, I'm interested into becoming a politician to change this. One tough fight, and all these "scary" movies about genetic modification from Hollywood sure don't help. Thnk long and hard and you know what I say is true, the only way to actually cure any mental illness, be it schizo, down syndrome, etc, is through genetic modification, these pills simply do not help people, unless you beleive these people who are unable to remember what happened yesterday and need 12 hours a sleep (because of the pills) can survive in the 9 to 5 western corporate world. We don't have a chance, no shot in hell, and you know it. . .

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Originally posted by mateulose
Actually, conservatism in general around the world threatens me, what worries me is CONSERVATIVE AMERICAN INFLUENCE reaching parties, say the Conservatives of Canada (and admit it, Harper leans towards his Bush friends), and consequently taking over if the conservatives ever win. The conservatives of Canada worry me a bit, because already they use Republic ...[text shortened]... holding me back through the provincial government, which unlike the feds, is very conservative.
Here's your lithium.

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Originally posted by mateulose
I don't need pills, what I need is a cure, a cure that can be acheived through HUMAN GENETIC MODIFICATION. But of course you conservative religious zealots are afraid of that, and made this downright illegal. You guys have made the only possible scientific cure to my disease illegal, and I will never forgive you for it, in fact, some random killing and mu ...[text shortened]... e 9 to 5 western corporate world. We don't have a chance, no shot in hell, and you know it. . .
Would you accept a "gene transplant" from Bush if it would cure you?

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Originally posted by mateulose
I'm geting sick and tired of people calling me a bigot because I hate conservatives. The fact is, quite simply, conservative "ideologies" are a very threat to my existance, to my right to live, to survive. While conservatives defend their mottos because they beleive it enhances their life, I, ruthlessly oppose for my very survival. My situation is defin ...[text shortened]... oes that individual have a right to defend himself/herself? Just awnser the question please. . .
I will answer your question seriously and directly. I have legally carried a concealed weapon for years. Concealed carry permits in Michigan are only issued and renewed after periodic training and testing by law enforcement. In Michigan, as I understand the law, you only have the right to use lethal force against the use of lethal force. There must be a clear and present physical lethal threat to yourself or someone else before you can take lethal action to neutralize it. If a conservative shoots at you, you can legally shoot at him. If a conservative simply pisses on your leg, then you cannot legally shoot at him. -Del

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Originally posted by Delmer
I will answer your question seriously and directly. I have legally carried a concealed weapon for years. Concealed carry permits in Michigan are only issued and renewed after periodic training and testing by law enforcement. In Michigan, as I understand the law, you only have the right to use lethal force against the use of lethal force. There must be a clear ...[text shortened]... at him. If a conservative simply pisses on your leg, then you cannot legally shoot at him. -Del
So basicly conservatives, by law, have a right to kill me via a system, but I don't have the right to simply shoot them, well duh, I know that already, that it's simply illegal, but the question is, puting the law aside and whether you agree with it or not, do I have the right as a human being to defend against this, ie: is it right or wrong? (Sometimes laws are simply wrong). That is my question to conservatives, and I've never really received a concrete awnser from them other then tip-toeing.

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Originally posted by mateulose
So basicly conservatives, by law, have a right to kill me via a system, but I don't have the right to simply shoot them, well duh, I know that already, that it's simply illegal, but the question is, puting the law aside and whether you agree with it or not, do I have the right as a human being to defend against this, ie: is it right or wrong? (Sometimes ...[text shortened]... onservatives, and I've never really received a concrete awnser from them other then tip-toeing.
The answer to your question is "no."

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Originally posted by mateulose
So basicly conservatives, by law, have a right to kill me via a system, but I don't have the right to simply shoot them, well duh, I know that already, that it's simply illegal, but the question is, puting the law aside and whether you ...[text shortened]... really received a concrete awnser from them other then tip-toeing.
Hell. We don't kill our dogs. Why should we put you out of your misery? Just kill yourself. That seems a good thing to do. You don't have the guts to actually use a gun. Who you trying to kid?

A person who doesn't feel not just the right but the OBLIGATION to defend self and family is not worth any thought. They are silly. Useless. And totally pointless. Protoplam factories to generate yet more amoeba like beings like themselves.

As to your mindless rant about killing "unspecified" individuals... hell. Have a go. You might feel better knowing you are a Manson Family type after all. Your dreams come true. Kill for no reason. Typical liberal BS. In case you missed it... and I'm sure you did. Read "Helter Skelter". Your exact point and rant was layed out by Charles Manson there. How do you feel to be on his level of thinking ability? He said it better than you though. Smarter than you.

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Originally posted by StarValleyWy
Hell. We don't kill our dogs. Why should we put you out of your misery? Just kill yourself. That seems a good thing to do. You don't have the guts to actually use a gun. Who you trying to kid?

A person who doesn't feel not just the right but the OBLIGATION to defend self and family is not worth any thought. They are silly. Useless. And totally po ...[text shortened]... eel to be on his level of thinking ability? He said it better than you though. Smarter than you.
That wasn't very friendly now was it?

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Originally posted by mateulose
So basicly conservatives, by law, have a right to kill me via a system, but I don't have the right to simply shoot them, well duh, I know that already, that it's simply illegal, but the question is, puting the law aside and whether you agree with it or not, do I have the right as a human being to defend against this, ie: is it right or wrong? (Sometimes ...[text shortened]... onservatives, and I've never really received a concrete awnser from them other then tip-toeing.
Forget right and wrong, forget legal and illegal, those terms are subjective. You should assert whatever power you have or can accumulate to accomplish what you want to accomplish. If that is enough power to change the situation, then the situation will change. If it is not, then the situation will remain the same, or worsen. -Del

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Originally posted by mateulose
Conservatism is a threat to me, because there is NO PLACE for a schizophernic in a conservative system, think long and hard, and you know this is true.
Are you certain? Something seems horribly disordered in a bipolar sort of way when you look at how many Americans chose to vote against their economic self-interests, while supporting their cultural conservatism. If the Libertarians had their way, and you could buy lithium on every street corner without legal repercussions, Kerry might have slid into office amid a pile of dirt.

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