Do people want higher taxes?

Originally posted by AThousandYoung
Kill them too if they try. Let the property owners do it.

I don't know if you can,
but can you get an owner for Ons,
that's O-N-S,Junior Market,
the address is 1934 East Aneheim,
all the windows are busted out,
and it's like a free-for-all in here
and uh the owner shouldat least come
down here and see if he can secure his business,
if he wants to...

Opening of Sublime's April 26 1992

I immediately think protection racket.

Originally posted by JS357
I immediately think protection racket.

You mean taxes? Or maybe rent. That's when you get the men with guns for not paying protection.

Originally posted by AThousandYoung
You mean taxes? Or maybe rent. That's when you get the men with guns for not paying protection.

Adapting Dylan: You're gonna have to pay someone.

Originally posted by AThousandYoung
Rioters are only 4% of the population? How come the hordes of law abiding citizenry can't handle such a tiny group?

They make a significant lobby.

Originally posted by Kunsoo
23 polls say yes.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/08/19/1008582/-Twenty-three-polls-say-tax-us-more?via=blog_1

Taxes are always popular if they are imposed on someone else.

Originally posted by normbenign
Taxes are always popular if they are imposed on someone else.

But I thought the rich (oh, sorry, the "productive class" because the rest of us are just sitting on our asses) just passed it on to the rest of us? Isn't that the mantra?

Originally posted by Kunsoo
But I thought the rich (oh, sorry, the "productive class" because the rest of us are just sitting on our asses) just passed it on to the rest of us? Isn't that the mantra?

LOL! exactly.

A site note, referring to the rich as the "productive class" while calling everyone else moochers... THAT is class warfare.

Originally posted by Kunsoo
23 polls Wajoma. All of them misleading and wrong? Every single one of them?

Polls, statistics, empirical evidence, all count for little in Wajoma's world where ideology reigns and the individual is forever stuck in a conflict between the forces of statism and the forces of freedom.

His comments on the free trade thread have already made his views very clear on this.

Originally posted by Kunsoo
But I thought the rich (oh, sorry, the "productive class" because the rest of us are just sitting on our asses) just passed it on to the rest of us? Isn't that the mantra?

I make a distinction between the rich and the productive. At some point most productive people become rich, and slow down or stop their production.

People making in excess of $250k per year are not rich.

Yes, like any other cost of goods sold, taxation on business will result in attempts to pass on as much of the costs as possible, as soon as possible. Some folks in those upper middle class income ranges aren't producers of product. Some must charge higher costs for their services, or reduce costs elsewhere, eliminating service or lowering quality.

People who ignore the costs of goods sold, will usually not remain in business.

Originally posted by USArmyParatrooper
LOL! exactly.

A site note, referring to the rich as the "productive class" while calling everyone else moochers... THAT is class warfare.

And that is misrepresentation of what most people referring to a productive class say. Moochers only represent a small percentage of people, and they may be moochers at any income level. Corporate executives, utility companies and others who seek government protection from competition are moochers in spite of being highly compensated. Many people of modest means are highly productive, but by no means wealthy.

It is your notion of trying to fit everyone into neat boxes that is class warfare.