Originally posted by flyUnityThousands of things have come into being along with video games. How do we know those things didn't have a greater influence on violent behavior than video games?
But, the percentage of violence went up since TV and Video games came into being,
There are hundreds of comedy shows on television, but I don't see people running out into the streets and being funnier.
I just don't see any correlation between violent video games and kids committing "more" violence. What about kids that don't play violent games, but instead play games that are peaceful and tranquil? Are the kids more peaceful? Can we take a violent, incarcerated 16 year old and have him play peaceful video games all day and cure him of his violence? If kids play strategy games do the kids feel more strategic? Ok, that last one was a joke, but you get my point.
Some kids are violent, some aren't. I don't know why.
Originally posted by flyUnityCauses attention deficiancy disorder does it?
Its been proven through Research that TV has a very bad effect on children, and causes ADD, I hardly ever watch TV (Dont even have one) And some of my friends who watch it like 6 hours a day, they go crazy when their not watching it, or doing somthing,
also I do think reading builds an inmagination, which is lacking in younger children
Do you have any proof to back up your statement, I find it very unlikely for various reasons, you see.
I have no idea and it's a very difficult thing to demonstrate either way. It's just as likely that computer games are reflecting the violence in society and indeed that individuals predisposed to violence would be more likely to play violent games. It's never easy to prove what's cause and what's effect.
Rich.
Originally posted by nikitaproninIf you are correct, then it will work out, because playing video games DOES make one more AVERAGE.
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I can't think of a single scientific theory or any philosophy developed from the mindless hours spent playing video games.
I am quite sure that no great literature or plays have ever been written by people playing video games.
Even great music seems to be divorced from video games. If TV is a "great waste-land" then video games surely must be "a great waste-land that requires a joy stick and an absolute fear of conversation". Or a no-joy stick as it turns out, if indeed our greatest joys in life are the people we befriend and our family that we associate with.
Originally posted by StarValleyWyYourve obviously never played a Final Fantasy game. Or to a leser degre Metal Gear Solid.
If you are correct, then it will work out, because playing video games DOES make one more AVERAGE.
I can't think of a single scientific theory or any philosophy developed from the mindless hours spent playing video games.
I am quite sure that no great literature or plays have ever been written by people playing video games.
Even great music s ...[text shortened]... deed our greatest joys in life are the people we befriend and our family that we associate with.
I suggest you play both games from start to finish before you give a opinuion.
I am sure Omnislash will back me up on this.
Originally posted by Brother EdwinIs there a single human alive MY AGE... 57 years old that has ever played a video game to completion? I doubt it. We don't have it in our genes the way you young people do.
Yourve obviously never played a Final Fantasy game. Or to a leser degre Metal Gear Solid.
I suggest you play both games from start to finish before you give a opinuion.
I am sure Omnislash will back me up on this.
I will stand by the statement that you are solving OTHER peoples genius instead of creating it yoursef.
But that is unfair too. I have never created anything of genius calibre.
Nevermind. Carry on.😕😵
Originally posted by StarValleyWyPlenty of old people play games.
Is there a single human alive MY AGE... 57 years old that has ever played a video game to completion? I doubt it. We don't have it in our genes the way you young people do.
I will stand by the statement that you are solving OTHER peoples genius instead of creating it yoursef.
But that is unfair too. I have never created anything of genius calibre.
Nevermind. Carry on.😕😵
By listening to Behtoven you are listening to other peoplles genieus, same with Skakesphere.
Final Fantasy VII has more in it than any Skakesphere or clasical music.
Ask Omnislash.
Originally posted by Brother EdwinBro...
Plenty of old people play games.
By listening to Behtoven you are listening to other peoplles genieus, same with Skakesphere.
Final Fantasy VII has more in it than any Skakesphere or clasical music.
Ask Omnislash.
You may have a point. I never thought of it like that. I'll get back to you.
Mike
Originally posted by Brother EdwinAsk away. If there is such a thing as classical and art like work in video games, this would be it. An oldie by todays standards, but it had just about anything you could want. The story, gameplay, etc. were all pheonomenal and creative beyond words.
Plenty of old people play games.
By listening to Behtoven you are listening to other peoplles genieus, same with Skakesphere.
Final Fantasy VII has more in it than any Skakesphere or clasical music.
Ask Omnislash.
Yes, I am a little obsessed.
There is lots of research that indicates that violence on TV, in movies and video games does de-sensitize people to violence. And where that exposure is extreme or excessive there is an increase in acting out violent behavior.
However, those media are not the sole factor. There are many factors: mental health, addiction, exposure to domestic violence and abuse, parental presence and absense, social skills and the lack there of.
America seems to be particularly violent with high rights of murder and assault. Could part of this be our shoot-em up frontier heritage? A reflection of our revolutionary beginnings? Or the overwhelming respect for "rights" of the individual over the "rights" of the society?
I also often wonder about the effects of lower level violence, the emotional and verbal kind....the put-downs and insults which pervade media. I was shocked at a movie which was "violent" but not at the fights and explosions but at the utter contempt and disregard expressed by the characters for the other characters in the words that characters used and the attitude that went with the words.
But, having said all that....consider History: the endless parade of tyrants and dictators, the horrific means of killing and torture which have been developed through the centuries and across the continents, the prisons and insane asylums, and all the atrocities of war. Our history is bloody and that was before there were any convient external scapegoats....
Blast! It looks like I have come back to humans and the choices they make.....
just a thought how come the world was violent before these. two world wars with a lot of violence attila the hun, with a violent nature, civil wars within your own country . roman greek pursian empires they did not come about by talk. i could go on and on its part of human nature to seek a millitary domain but its our way also to try to get on with people
Originally posted by richhoeyYou methodological insights are astute. However, there are some neat research designs that can disambiguate the direction of causality.
I have no idea and it's a very difficult thing to demonstrate either way. It's just as likely that computer games are reflecting the violence in society and indeed that individuals predisposed to violence would be more likely to play vio ...[text shortened]... 's never easy to prove what's cause and what's effect.
Rich.
Here is an example of what is known as a "cross-lagged panel design".
One study in the 70's, by Aron and colleagues, measured how much TV kids watched and how aggressive kids were, and then measured how much TV they watched and how aggressive they were when they had reached adolescence. The amount of TV that kids watched predicted how aggressive they were later, but their levels of aggression as kids did not predict how much TV they watched later. This suggests that watching TV causes aggression more than aggression causes TV viewing (of aggressive programs).
In general, there is a wealth converging experimental and correlational evidence that watching TV and playing violent video games really does increase the risk of violence. Anyone who claims otherwise is simply unfamiliar with the results of the research.
It might be objected that incompatible cases can be found. This is not a valid objection to the general truth. Just because someone doesn't die of lung cancer doesn't mean that smoking is unrelated to lung cancer. And the case that playing violent video games increases aggression is about as solid as the case that smoking causes cancer.
The social psychologist Craig Anderson has spearheaded and integrated much of the relevant research on the effects of violent video games. Here's his academic website for anyone interested in the references.
http://www.psychology.iastate.edu/faculty/caa/
Bests,
Aiden