Does lockdown protect you?

@eladar said
Fact is within 10 years practically all deaths would be dead people anyhow.

Fact is, there is no proof anyone was saved. Fact is people sheltering at home are getting sick. Fact is that covid is running through retirement homes anyhow.

Do you have a better alternative to lockdowns? If so, what?

@eladar said
Fact is within 10 years practically all deaths would be dead people anyhow.

Fact is, there is no proof anyone was saved. Fact is people sheltering at home are getting sick. Fact is that covid is running through retirement homes anyhow.

Fact is within 100 years all of us will be dead people.
Why worry?

@handyandy said
Fact is within 100 years all of us will be dead people.
Why worry?

Fact is that those who are young and are the future have no more to fear from this as driving in a car.

@vivify said
Do you have a better alternative to lockdowns? If so, what?

Sweden's plan is much better.

@vivify said
NY is trending downward in both reported cases and deaths. So yes.

he is in leading you to the same argument the asholes use against gun control. "Gun control doesn't prevent 100% of gun deaths so we might as well have 0 gun control"

There are a few posters on this forum that you can't argue with. Stubborn against any outside argument and dumb enough to not have a good idea of their own. Eladar is one of the founding members of that club.

@eladar said
Sweden's plan is much better.

That you think Swedens approach could work in America is hilarious. It betrays a startling ignorance of the facts, which let's be honest, is what you would expect from someone who thinks the universe is a few thousand years old.

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for now

@antigonerising said
No. But it certainly helps to identify the cowards, apparatchiks and bootlickers.

Sorry, but don't cowards run and hide. So just who are you suggesting is the coward.

@eladar said
Saves lives? Prolongs the inevitable? Which in the general context of things is a very small proportion of of the population.

Then the question is how many people are killed because of the shut down.

At best the lockdown is shifting who gets killed. At worst no lives are saved, only more people are killed.

The amount of deaths from the canceled colonoscopies, prostate tests, breast screening etc etc etc will be ignored by many. My wife had blood samples taken nearly 3 weeks ago and 2 weeks later was told to go back because the blood had coagulated. have heard similar stories. But lets all ignore that shall we, Very convenient.

@badradger said
for now

And it will get worse, but lets state it as is really is .301/1000. that sound smaller now, yes? And No lockdown No collateral damage, NON. Though I do not think they did enough I feel they did much better than lockdown, fear dying = fear living.
Personal responsibility is a dying trait.
If you don't want to get it, take care and you wont. You know, wash your hands, don't pick ya nose, etc etc. Stay away from the vulnerable you all know how it goes.

@proper-knob said
That you think Swedens approach could work in America is hilarious. It betrays a startling ignorance of the facts, which let's be honest, is what you would expect from someone who thinks the universe is a few thousand years old.

Norway's has worked a lot better; fewer than 1/7 than Swedish deaths per capita (an average of 1 per day over the last week), an average of only 42 new cases in the last week and only 27 patients remaining in serious/critical condition.

So after about two months of "lockdown", they are now starting to reopen previously closed parts of their society in a gradual process. https://www.lifeinnorway.net/coronavirus-timetable/

@proper-knob said
That you think Swedens approach could work in America is hilarious. It betrays a startling ignorance of the facts, which let's be honest, is what you would expect from someone who thinks the universe is a few thousand years old.

Ignorance of the facts? How many people have died in Texas?

@jimmac said
The amount of deaths from the canceled colonoscopies, prostate tests, breast screening etc etc etc will be ignored by many. My wife had blood samples taken nearly 3 weeks ago and 2 weeks later was told to go back because the blood had coagulated. have heard similar stories. But lets all ignore that shall we, Very convenient.

What gets me is, doctors coming out in the MSM and saying, heart attack and stroke victims coming to the hospitals has been halved. Incredible.

Bed space is more than ample. Strange times.

@no1marauder said
Norway's has worked a lot better; fewer than 1/7 than Swedish deaths per capita (an average of 1 per day over the last week), an average of only 42 new cases in the last week and only 27 patients remaining in serious/critical condition.

So after about two months of "lockdown", they are now starting to reopen previously closed parts of their society in a gradual process. https://www.lifeinnorway.net/coronavirus-timetable/

Really? How many people are we talking about? People die everyday. I am not so sure why people believe that such a small loss of life is such a big deal. It really makes no sense whatsoever.

The fact is, most of the New Yorkers in hospitals due to covid were locked down.