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20 Sep 22
20 Sep 22
@fiandrunko saidGood answer. So Violence can solve a lot of things. But the liberal dogma is not so good with that.
Words can be ignored or misunderstood.
Everyone understands violence. It has its place.
20 Sep 22
@averagejoe1 saidYes. Violence can.
It usually doesn’t though. Generally people treat others as they themselves are treated. So violence, usually, isn’t an effective measure to use.
@earl-of-trumps saidMaybe we should define violence:
Without the threat of violence, would governments have laws,, taxes, or even exist?
"The unlawful exercise of physical force or intimidation by the exhibition of such force."
That would not include self-defense, arresting criminals, hunting for food, etc. I doubt this is what the OP is referring to.
20 Sep 22
@vivify saidWell, dropping the war-ending bombs on Japan, solved a lot. Killing BinLaden. I would have personally done both gladly.
Maybe we should define violence:
"The unlawful exercise of physical force or intimidation by the exhibition of such force."
That would not include self-defense, arresting criminals, hunting for food, etc. I doubt this is what the OP is referring to.
Violence is a necessary tool. Some threads over years, maybe by vegans and other air-floaters, have said there are other ways. Not necessarily. I’m surprised no one has said that here.
@averagejoe1 saidLike I said, I don't really consider it "violence" when it's a matter of self defense or catching criminals.
Well, dropping the war-ending bombs on Japan, solved a lot. Killing BinLaden. I
If you mean violence in the purest sense of the word, meaning harm or threat of harm regardless of context, then yes, violence does solve problems. Human society can't be maintained without violence.
Obviously, violence should be prevented as much as reasonably possible.
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20 Sep 22
@fiandrunko saidSpoken like a true MAGAhatter. It didn't quite work on Jan 6 2021, but you're sure to try again on Jan 6 2023, aren't you?
Words can be ignored or misunderstood.
Everyone understands violence. It has its place.
@averagejoe1 saidDropping the bomb on Nagasaki and Hiroshima solved nothing.
Well, dropping the war-ending bombs on Japan, solved a lot. Killing BinLaden. I would have personally done both gladly.
Violence is a necessary tool. Some threads over years, maybe by vegans and other air-floaters, have said there are other ways. Not necessarily. I’m surprised no one has said that here.
Japan would have surrendered anyway. There country was bankrupt, broken and they had no means of import or production.
Plus the Russians and Chinese were snapping at their heels as well.
@shavixmir saidProbably a coincidence that soon after the bombs the war stopped and the emperor cited the bombs as a reason.
Dropping the bomb on Nagasaki and Hiroshima solved nothing.
Japan would have surrendered anyway. There country was bankrupt, broken and they had no means of import or production.
Plus the Russians and Chinese were snapping at their heels as well.
With you there, can't trust anything politicians say, but the problem is, trust you even less.
21 Sep 22
@shavixmir saidLibs have little to really say on the Forum.
Dropping the bomb on Nagasaki and Hiroshima solved nothing.
Japan would have surrendered anyway. There country was bankrupt, broken and they had no means of import or production.
Plus the Russians and Chinese were snapping at their heels as well.
Your posts are like Bob Dylan lyrics!