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  1. Standard member sh76
    Civis Americanus Sum
    16 May '11 16:26
    http://wuphys.wustl.edu/~katz/scientist.html

    KN (and others), what do you think? Is the guy blowing smoke or are there really too many scientific phDs out there?
  2. Subscriber FMF
    a.k.a. John W Booth
    17 May '11 02:25
    Originally posted by sh76
    http://wuphys.wustl.edu/~katz/scientist.html

    KN (and others), what do you think? Is the guy blowing smoke or are there really too many scientific phDs out there?
    Here's an interesting article from The Economist

    http://www.megaupload.com/?d=HI2EP1AF
  3. 17 May '11 16:25
    Originally posted by sh76
    http://wuphys.wustl.edu/~katz/scientist.html

    KN (and others), what do you think? Is the guy blowing smoke or are there really too many scientific phDs out there?
    We should all be scientists, and then we should have human labour go the way of the horse and plough. YEAH!
  4. Standard member sh76
    Civis Americanus Sum
    17 May '11 17:02 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by FMF
    Here's an interesting article from The Economist

    http://www.megaupload.com/?d=HI2EP1AF
    Interesting piece; thanks.

    Seems like that correspondent agrees with Mr. Katz.
  5. Subscriber FMF
    a.k.a. John W Booth
    17 May '11 17:16
    Originally posted by sh76
    Interesting piece; thanks.

    Seems like that correspondent agrees with Mr. Katz.
    http://fmfredhotpawn.blogspot.com/2011/05/doctoral-degrees.html
  6. 17 May '11 18:09
    Originally posted by sh76
    http://wuphys.wustl.edu/~katz/scientist.html

    KN (and others), what do you think? Is the guy blowing smoke or are there really too many scientific phDs out there?
    Maybe he's right about the US - I can only judge the situation around here. Of the people who graduate with a Master's degree at my alma mater 99% finds a job within a year, of which about a third or so chooses to do a PhD. There's no problem in going to the private sector after getting a PhD either (since there are many large technological corporations there are also plenty of places for PhD's at Philips, Shell, ASML etc.).

    As for the "postdoc treadmill", I don't really know. I think most (associate) professors I have met did one or two postdocs and got a permanent position afterwards. But yeah, if you don't like traveling and moving around, science's not for you.
  7. Standard member Soothfast
    0,1,1,2,3,5,8,13,21,
    18 May '11 03:16
    Originally posted by sh76
    http://wuphys.wustl.edu/~katz/scientist.html

    KN (and others), what do you think? Is the guy blowing smoke or are there really too many scientific phDs out there?
    Funny, I ran across that article maybe about 5 years ago. And I largely agree with it.