Unlike mail ballots, which in theory could be faked in ways that in-person ballots couldn’t (though in reality, mail ballots aren’t), early voting at a polling place is essentially identical, in terms of security, to voting on Election Day. Letting people vote early and in person would allow people to vote who work on Tuesdays. Certainly it doesn’t make it easier to cheat.
From the standpoint of preventing fraud, it makes no difference whether the period for early voting, whether in person or by mail, is long or short. Either way, the same risks and security measures apply. Yet Republicans want to constrict this period. Even on election day, what's the rationale for shortening the in person time window to what is essentially just working hours? Why?
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Sure, if they were really interested in stopping voter fraud, which was close to zero and has been for 150 years.
But of course that is NOT their aim. Their real aim is to take over the US in a coup which is already in swing, now near 400 state laws specifically and blatantly designed to eliminate POC from voting.
So if you think otherwise, prove me wrong.
Don't EVEN come back with the propaganda line 'what's wrong with voter ID'.
That is a fukking DODGE, avoiding debate on the real goals of what used to be the republican party and now just another arm of your EX god king Trump.
We are in dangerous times and the US is in EXTREME danger of losing the democracy that started our nation.
But of course, republicans winning however they do it is MUCH MUCH more important than ANY crises facing the US and the world.
@sonhouse saidVoter ID is another issue. I am trying to wrap my head around early voting though. Why are they going after that? I work all day, how am I supposed to get to a polling place by 6:00 on a Tuesday? I would need to vote by mail?
@wildgrass
Sure, if they were really interested in stopping voter fraud, which was close to zero and has been for 150 years.
But of course that is NOT their aim. Their real aim is to take over the US in a coup which is already in swing, now near 400 state laws specifically and blatantly designed to eliminate POC from voting.
So if you think otherwise, prove me wrong.
...[text shortened]... winning however they do it is MUCH MUCH more important than ANY crises facing the US and the world.
@wildgrass saidyour question is vague...which state do you refer to and how long is the early voting period?
Unlike mail ballots, which in theory could be faked in ways that in-person ballots couldn’t (though in reality, mail ballots aren’t), early voting at a polling place is essentially identical, in terms of security, to voting on Election Day. Letting people vote early and in person would allow people to vote who work on Tuesdays. Certainly it doesn’t make it easier to cheat. ...[text shortened]... rationale for shortening the in person time window to what is essentially just working hours? Why?
@mott-the-hoople saidYou fellers compare Ga law to Biden Delaware law and get back to us. Ga is better.
your question is vague...which state do you refer to and how long is the early voting period?
@mott-the-hoople saidI don't think the state is too relevant since many states are doing it, but for sake of argument let's say Iowa. They cut early voting from 29 days to 20 days and decreased the hours that polling places would be open.
your question is vague...which state do you refer to and how long is the early voting period?
Why? How does that change prevent fraud?
@averagejoe1 saidPlease elaborate. I have no idea what you're referring to.
You fellers compare Ga law to Biden Delaware law and get back to us. Ga is better.
@suzianne saidyou and sonhouse (aka houndog) have a reading comprehension problem.
What we're seeing is a huge backlash against the fact that mail-in voting caught the Republicans flat-footed. Now that they know people like it, they're pulling out the stops to make it harder to use it.
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@mott-the-hoople saidThat's a fair question to ask.
your question is vague...which state do you refer to and how long is the early voting period?
Also, not to make assumptions, but it's good to see some probable GOP members answering rather than just some non-GOP members offering to answer on the GOP's behalf.
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@wildgrass saidDo they pay the poll workers in Iowa? Maybe it was just to save money.
I don't think the state is too relevant since many states are doing it, but for sake of argument let's say Iowa. They cut early voting from 29 days to 20 days and decreased the hours that polling places would be open.
Why? How does that change prevent fraud?
I don't see how 20 days is especially restrictive. Probably 11 days would be plenty in most locations (starting two Saturdays before election day). In big cities it might be better to have a longer period.
Also, maybe they are doing it mostly for economy but are pitching it as fraud prevention to make sure they have a good turnout for the next election.
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@suzianne saidThe topic is early voting, not mail-in voting.
What we're seeing is a huge backlash against the fact that mail-in voting caught the Republicans flat-footed. Now that they know people like it, they're pulling out the stops to make it harder to use it.
@wildgrass saidWhat if a candidate gets caught doing something really crooked and/or unethical and the damning photos are released close to election day and the people who voted early want to change their vote?
Unlike mail ballots, which in theory could be faked in ways that in-person ballots couldn’t (though in reality, mail ballots aren’t), early voting at a polling place is essentially identical, in terms of security, to voting on Election Day. Letting people vote early and in person would allow people to vote who work on Tuesdays. Certainly it doesn’t make it easier to cheat. ...[text shortened]... rationale for shortening the in person time window to what is essentially just working hours? Why?
You voted for a child molester who did a 12 year old girl on Epstein Island. You cannot change your vote because you didn't know when you voted. That is the chance you take when you vote early. Tough luck.
Is that how it should go?
@suzianne saidFlat footed people can run. Their feet are just sore afterwards. You are using expressions you do not understand.
What we're seeing is a huge backlash against the fact that mail-in voting caught the Republicans flat-footed. Now that they know people like it, they're pulling out the stops to make it harder to use it.
This thread is not about mail in voting, but mail in voting makes voting fraud a lot easier, especially vote buying. Trump was right about that.
@wildgrass saidof course the state is relevant, each state has their own rules. Now, state which state said this was to prevent fraud?
I don't think the state is too relevant since many states are doing it, but for sake of argument let's say Iowa. They cut early voting from 29 days to 20 days and decreased the hours that polling places would be open.
Why? How does that change prevent fraud?